Featured LOE (Load Order Editor) 2.3

No apology necessary, hoping it'll be patched soon, need to use it for mods like Blackcore and Painter

All good/my bad. Update to 2.3 and reinstalled .NET has resolved my this problem. Cheers

That's gotta be the weirdest problem fix I've ever seen. There's literally nothing about .NET being changed lol. Windows is funny.

The higher the number, the later the mod will load. A mod at position #1 will load first, a mod at position #5 will load after the first 4 mods.

Priority: mod #2 will be able to modify data from mod #1.

Mod #1 will NOT be able to modify data from mod #2.

You want to put modded Traders as far in the start as you can. Modded items typically go after Traders. AI mods, SVM and overhauls (i.e ValensProgression, or AIOs) typically go as far back as possible. This is because AI and progression mods will use your modded items/other qol mods for bot generation or other things.

A good concept is this (in terms of how LOE works):

Modded traders at the top

Modded items and quality-of-life mods in the middle

AI, progression and overhauls at the bottom

Where exactly does "Battlestate Games" lead? I definitely cannot reproduce this, and you are the first one I see with this issue. Could you elaborate on what you were doing when this occurred? What version you downloaded, when it happened, etc.

EDIT: I also want to mention that, the way these mods are listed, is by LOE directly fetching the names of all the folders in your user/mods folder. They're then compiled into an array and thrown into order.json. I have no idea how you've managed to get one, let alone 10, full paths into this array..

it appeared after first use of the LOE 2.1. I did a fresh SPTARKOV install for 3.8. The Paths lead to the user/mods folder.

my folderpath is D:\01_Games\Battlestate Games\SPTARKOV\users\mods

I doublechecked that LOE was in the mods folder aswell.

.... after the third fresh install of LOE 2.1 everything looks normal and works just fine

Refer to Terkoizs' Comment above.

"Staff note: source code was reviewed and the single VirusTotal result is clearly a false positive and can be safely ignored."

I too am having issues with this, only mine looks different...

You are definitely not supposed to be able to fullscreen it. That's my bad, lol.

After a chat with Drakia, I discovered that scaling issues have to do with running higher than 1080p and using Windows' scaling system set to 125/150%. I run 1440p with regular 100%, which is why I haven't been able to replicate this problem.

I don't know what I want to do about this for now. I would not exactly love to rewrite the sidebar system, but I may have to.

I'm having the same issue, will wait and see if you find a resolution. Thanks for all you do.

Setting your resolution scale to 100% will make the mod viewable. When you're done moving around mods, just set the scale back to whatever you had it at before. I have a 4K monitor so mine defaults to 150%

@WestParkGuy. I don't know if anyone has told you....but you're a hero.

Having the exact same issue, probably just an issue with the plugin itself, no biggie, it'll be fixed.

Yeah, it's being looked into. I am the only one NOT getting this error at all, so it's hard to troubleshoot.

Is there anyway I can send you some sort of Log? never had to do something like before so if there is, I just don't know. Give me a heads up if there is, I will gladly do something like that if it makes your life easier.

There are no real logs produced for this. The problem is that it works fine for me, but not for anyone else. Thus I just kind of have to rely on what kind of code might work

Same issue here.

If it helps at all, I have SPT installed on my E: drive, and the base folder is named "SPT3.8.0".

The Aki server will include ALL existing mods in the mods folder. The load order only helps order the initial ones. Any mods NOT in the load order will be loaded in alphabetical order after the load ordered ones.

TL;DR: It allows mods to overwrite changes done by other mods without conflicts or problems arising. It matters as soon as you use more than one mod and they both do something similar.

If you have over 10 server mods installed, the chance of you needing a load order increases marginally per new mod you install.

Beautiful thank you. I had figured as much. I wonder how difficult it would be to get a MO2 plugin working for SPT. In years of modding I still haven't touched a tool I've enjoyed as much as MO2.

Someone already did iIrc. It's this integration page. I'm not sure how useful it is to you though haha

Oh brother, you have changed my life. Thank you, also hope you/everyone had a good holidays. Thanks for the replys!

100%

I just forgot to update label. I'll do that now!

Generally, the unwritten rule of load ordering is modded items first, traders second, server stuff third, and AI mods last.

For example, you'd load a regular modded gun first off, then the trader it belongs to (if any), after that comes SVM, then comes SAIN + Waypoints. The reason for this ordering is because modded items are database related, so they load first to ensure that their traders can fetch their item from the database and use it.

Traders are a middle-of-the-road kind of thing. Needs some database support, but not inherently as much as SVM. AI mods are last as they may use modded items and values SVM changes, thus they are last. They also often use connected client mods.

You could debate the point of anything made on here. The point is what your opinion of convenience is. SPT's devs deliberately created order.json in order to avoid having to edit the folder names, and all this app does is make the editing of said json seamless and fluid.

To experienced users with a skill, this app is completely redundant and pointless.

To novice users who don't like having to manually order mods around and like an AIO solution, this app is likely a life saver.

I know that I never manually edit anymore, I always use LOE. Huge time saver in my honest opinion.

I see:) ty for the reply.

Ah, hi there. I see what the issue is. I'm not sure how flexible the default component is that I use for scrolling, but I will look into it. There should be a way to fix this, be it a janky workaround or proper solution.

Thanks for reporting

It doesn't give you that message if there is no cache to clear.

That is a non-issue. I just checked it, and it's an error with the display counting your mods. In the end, the bottom number in the actual list is the amount you have. The display counting doesn't account for the fact that C# arrays start at 0, but the actual list does.

Nothing to worry about, just basic counting math gone wrong

Good to know, thank you for looking into it (and thank you for making this mod and giving it an interface so easy and intuitive that even I could instantly use it)

Thank you for using it and appreciating the effort!

You can disable Defender or simply ignore the Downloads folder in order to use it. Whether you have issues with it seems to be random, both with browsers and users.

It is definitely not a trojan given that I've ran scans, had Terkoiz review the code, and my friends have downloaded the newest version.

Wrong download link? I just downloaded 1.4 fresh and it gave me the correct version. No detection, deletion or virus flagging. It might simply be your browser being funny. As for Ghost, I can't comment because my experience says otherwise. It might be a user-to-user case.

It is probably due to the .exe files. They cause problems from time to time. Because that of you is yes an .exe file and of Ghost is one too. From Ghost I can now download without message, yours not.

Yeah, AVs tend to bitch about exe files often for no reason. Messages seem to also be random in my experience....

app stuff bad

same thing here i cant even get it to download and for some reason i cant turn off my windows defender because it turns back on instantly and i can download 1.2 but that doesnt seem to work

You can disable Defender, you just require admin privileges. I do it all the time for testing stuff.

Yes, it's a false positive. I've had it several times, same as DrTuSo's mention of Wacatac. Sometimes either of them occur, sometimes both, sometimes neither. I don't know why.

The deep reason might be me having BitTorrent installed, but that seems like a far stretch.

Regardless, I'll do a full sweep of my machine today to be sure. I'm confident that there are no problems with this, given that these were developed between two separate machines and neither machine has had any issues with either this or my Mini Launcher.

Either way, 1.2 is fully functional. The only change is that 1.3 is a bit faster at detecting mods.

It's done this way to enable real-time functionality. The limitation from this is mostly drive write speed. There's no way for me to properly speed it up without disabling real-time functionality, which (in my opinion) would make the fast paced design moot.

EDIT: See 2nd reply

Update: I thought you meant the little flicker that sometimes occurs. A half-second thread sleep slipped in during testing and I didn't see it when uploading.

This freeze has been removed with version 1.4!

OMG! This is solved, beacuse write the comment? WTF???

This modder community goodess the 7days to die modding community. Thx! Your magic my good day

And other idea. The list modification free up-down. But i have finish, click the save, done, or other button. This is smoother and faster. Sorry, my brain This is my idea, you don't have to solve it.

Uh, apologies, I'm not sure I understand your request.

Do you want to be order mods around but only save the edited list with a separate button?

I've had that a handful of times, and this app is no different. To be sure, I'll do a full sweep today to make sure. 99% it's a false positive

EDIT: To further this, Windows Defender claims Wacatac to come from my Mini Launcher, but VirusTotal never picks it up on that one. It seems to be random, and Defender is ridiculously aggressive.

Better be safe, than sorry. Wish you good luck with your full wipe.

1.2 works fine, and I definitely skip this one

Edit: Using Virus Total URL scan feature, flags 1.3 as malware.

I went through with five full scans, 2 with Defender and 3 with MalwareBytes Premium. They detected BitTorrent, as I suspected, but nothing with LOE changed; still the same detections.

I randomly scanned the first mod I could find on the workshop, Door Randomizer, and the URL to download that mod also got flagged as malware. Same result for scanning both the dll and the zip.

It's safe to say that Lumu is a false positive for both this and Door Randomizer, as I'm sure Drakia would not provide malware in their mods, and nor would I. URL scans in general are not very touch and go with actual flags, as they've proven rather random for me.

EDIT: As for the other detections, such as Watamac or VBA32, I'll be going through my PC later this weekend to see if I can somehow get rid of them. They're false positives for me, but I can understand the fear in downloading it regardless. All in all, thanks for reporting!

Do you have any mods installed?

have 8 mods and when run the program it show none

If you open up order.json is there anything in that file? After installing the mods, have you launched the game at least once?

Yes i have mods installed

not its just the default json file brackets etc, nothing in the order.... mod wise it is empty, yes launched it lots of times and launchers always reports the mod is not in the order file but mods still run ok