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A PMC focused SAIN preset targeting challenging but fair PMC encounters with improved AI reactivity. This preset try's to eliminates some of the frustrating AI reactivity mechanics while maintaining tactical difficulty through better bot behavior. Minimal adjustments made to BOSS/ROUGE/CULTISTS and SCAVS other than global modifiers. Most if not all are on the default harder PMC preset settings as I find them fine.Balanced other actors to fit with the PMC changes. This might make the overall experience too easy, if so recommend making non PMC actors spawn with hard and impossible difficulty.
This is also what I find fun, and that taste might not transfer. I try to have around a 1/3 raid death to keep the content interesting but still maintain a slight power fantasy with it being single player.
Core Goals:
Challenging but Fair: Maintains difficulty while trying to eliminate high accuracy and instant reactions from bots. Bots are aggressive and smart, but give you a fighting chance to react and outplay them.
Dynamic Combat: Emphasizes movement, positioning, and tactical play over static cover shooting. Bots actively reposition and respond to your tactics faster then the default presets.
Difficulty Scaling: Each difficulty level provides an appropriate challenge curve, from forgiving (Easy) to hardcore (Impossible) without unfair advantages.
Recommended Setup:
ABPS with 10% Easy, 50% Normal, 30% Hard, 10% Impossible bots spread. Or adjust your method of bot difficulty.
Best For:
- Players who want challenging but fair AI combat with a focus on single player and the respective power fantasy
- Minimizing instant-first contact scenarios
- Anyone seeking more dynamic, engaging firefights
- Players who appreciate tactical, reactive AI behavior
Install:
Drop BepInEx folder into SPTarkov root directory, and select the preset from the SAIN config menu
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Version 1.2.1
- Sleaze
- 1.5k Downloads
Another large pass over all actor settings, you might find this preset overall a bit on the easier side and I recommend spawning all non SCAV actors above easy.
This will be the final version of this preset until I publish my version of SAIN with added features. -
Version 1.2.0
- Sleaze
- 570 Downloads
Balanced all other actors to fit core goals.
Should find SCAVS, and the boss enemies much more enjoyable.
Like the last version, a spawn difficulty of mostly Normal and Hard recommended. -
Version 1.0.1
- Sleaze
- 310 Downloads
Updated link with a GDrive direct link
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Version 1.0.0
- Sleaze
- 141 Downloads
fack
"ABPS with 10% Easy, 50% Normal, 30% Hard, 10% Impossible bots spread." where in the hell are such settings in APBS ? lol
Aomlih2002
It's in user/mods/APBS's folder/APBS.exe.
fack
lol, not the exe, in the interface. I didn't find any such settings anywhere
roarbark
thanks for this preset! i've felt that in most encounters this is actually really fun, the bots are really dangerous but i don't have to sweat my ass off to actually win fights...
with that said, i have this issue where as soon as a fight is in close quarters i tend to get immediately shot in the head, too fast for me personally to react... is there a certain quirk of bot behaviour i'm missing, or is there some setting in the SAIN menu i could change to make bots aim center mass in close quarters again? i checked and made sure the global setting for aiming center mass is on and i even turned off the cqc reaction boost but it's still pretty oppressive...
FallegaHQ
Do PMCs still rain RGNs like crazy with this preset?
quesonuke
It would be so awesome if SAIN presets were relegated to somewhere else. No offense or whatever but half the mod release updates I see are just some random guy’s SAIN preset and it’s gumming up the works.
Aomlih2002
Yea not happening
jaxorsmthng
@Aomlih2002 @quesonuke is happening, just no eta
https://github.com/sp-tarkov/forge/issues/41
quesonuke
Thank god
Shturman
this works on SAIN 3.10 ? SAIN is not updated to 3.11 thats why i ask
Shibdib
Sain has been updated for months
Aomlih2002
Where have u been? Living under a rock?
Aomlih2002
Maybe tone the bosses down a bit. Tagilla keeps head-eyeing me in secs
Deftoner976
Thank you for this preset dude, I downloaded it yesterday and I've been enjoying it a lot!
is perfect for me.
schiz
Whoa, Goons saw me from the scav antenna. I was in the rocks on the other side of the road before the abandoned USEC camp and I was getting shot at, checked dynamic map and there was no one near me. (thought it was a sound bug untill I saw the tracers and ricochet. They came straight for my position even when i doubled back and tried to flank they just kept changing direction to make a B line straight to me like they could see through the rocks and hills. (Maybe only Bigpipe and Death knight)
guessing it is the SAIN preset. other than that I've had some fun encounters with PMCs and scavs also seem harder than Live Like Experience preset. great fun so far apart from this one experience of Goon X-Ray vision.
Edit: just replicated. they do not have x-ray vision through the rocks and ground but still started attacking same distance away.
started looking and got confused. Goons may have 360 cheat vision on in hard and impossible mode. i think I just turned that off
Sleaze Author
Yeah, I use the bosses as a way to balance out the higher survival rate but honestly, my friends during play testing found it annoying as hell and huge difficulty spike. I made a ton of adjustments in the new version that might feel better, but a lot of play testing is needed.
Siuxter
I usually find scavs and pmcs just sitting still on random places and not moving. Do you know how to fix that?
apfaffman
i'm playing this with MOAR, but not sure that has any bearing on the scav bot behavior i've noticed on factory. they are very slow to aggro me.
PMCs and bosses have no trouble shooting me, though!
Aomlih2002
Quick question, what's your bot difficulty setting in the pre-raid screen? The one that is next to "Number of Bots"? Cause I already set my ABPS bot difficulty setting as suggested, but I also set my default bot difficulty setting in SVM to be "Normal" instead of "As Online".
Sleaze Author
I don't use SVM for setting the preraid difficulty, so by default it should be As Online and then APBS handles the rest.
sparrow8332
as you stated -
Recommended Setup:
ABPS with 10% Easy, 50% Normal, 30% Hard, 10% Impossible bots spread. Or adjust your method of bot difficulty.
How do you set this in ABPS ? i cant find any config setting to adjust like you describe. Please help
Sleaze Author
It's inside of the config app in the mod files, under PMC settings. Should be a bunch of sliders and what not.
TalkBigDoSmall
where do i change? i already in file which have spawn all, but dont know where to change that %.. in what line?
fack
I found no such options either, not sure what settings these were in what version etc...but I can't find anything related to any bot sliders for difficulty in ABPS
sterrd
Download link is timing out for me:
store1.filemirage.com took too long to respond.
Sleaze Author
I added a new version with a GDrive link that should work better, sorry about that.
sterrd
Thanks, excited to give this a whirl!
Bigboyterry
would this work fine on 3.10 sain?
Shibdib
No the latest SAIN added and renamed a lot of preset variables
Bigboyterry
ah okay thank you
ebo61
How would you say this compares to the Live Like Experience mod?
Shibdib
I'm hoping better so I can stop updating that lol
Sleaze Author
Shibdibs Live Like Preset is really good and if you're after a more punishing preset I would recommend that one. I personally like FEAR and the way the AI handles the player and am trying to mimic that more. AI is isn't going to push you hard, but make you feel like it is. If that makes sense.