Holy, I didn't realize it needed the realism mod, I was trying to avoid that to try a "vanilla" ammunition mod but that's an easy fix. As for the outdated versions, I downloaded and used everything from today and yesterday which would be the most recent. I'll try to figure out the SVM issue, I figured that would be a culprit even though I really wish that wasn't the case. I did remove the no esp, but for some reason it appeared again, I'll go ahead and remove that. I do have bigbrain and waypoints, the most recent version. I'll give everything an attempt at fixing it with these solutions and see what happens. Worst case I may need to remove SVM but I'll try to avoid doing that. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for the help!