LOE (Load Order Editor) 2.5

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A quick and simple tool to easily adjust the load ordering for server mods.

You need .NET Core for this to work:

Runtime installer for 8.0.3


Features

  • Easy sorting system (keybind- and button based).
  • Built-in failsafe for invalid paths.
  • External linking for important info


Downloading & Using

  1. Open Load Order Editor.zip.
  2. Extract Load Order Editor.exe into your user / mods folder (where all your server mods are).
  3. Run Load Order Editor.exe that you just extracted.


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Support

As always, reach out to me on Discord if you need help:


- net.hazelify, or the SPT-AKI Discord server

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  • Version 2.5

    New release!

    VirusTotal: Linked on the repo


    Changelog

    • Fixed "Object reference not instantiated" error if a mod that is being moved doesn't have sptVersion property in the metadata
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  • Version 2.4

    New release!

    VirusTotal: Linked on the repo


    Changelog

    • Updated to 3.9.0
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  • Version 2.3

    New release!

    VirusTotal: Linked on the repo


    Changelog

    • Changed to a bold font for (in my opinion) a better looking list system.
    • Added persistent window sizing; resizing LOE will cause it to keep the new size throughout restarts.

    Images

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  • Version 2.2

    New release!

    Virustotal: Linked on the repo


    Changelog

    • Fixed (hopefully) scaling issues users were having with LOE 2.1.
    • Replaced the sidebar system with a minimalistic bottom-panel system.

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  • Version 2.1

    New release!

    Virustotal: Linked on the repo


    Changelog

    • Fixed error message saying that LOE was in the wrong folder
    • Changed font from Bender to Bahnschrift (pre-installed with Windows)
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  • Version 2.0

    New release!

    VirusTotal: Linked on the repo

    Changelog

    • Visual update over the old LOE
    • Framework switch from .NET Framework to .NET Core 8.0
    • Increased responsiveness
    • Fancier GUI
    • Nice new toggleable sidebar

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  • Version 1.5

    Welcome to episode 1.5 of LOE!


    VirusTotal: Linked on the repo

    GitHub release page: Release


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    Backend changes

    • Fixed a bug where having more than 1 orphaned mod in order.json would cause an annoying loop of messages.
    • Probably something else I missed; I'm tired lmao, you'll find out

    UI changes

    • A bunch of UI changes!
    • Overhauled the UI to be more minimalistic
    • Added a context menu for clearing cache and other stuff.
    • Added tooltips for more contextual information on some components.
    • Added a button for deleting the selected mod.

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  • Version 1.4

    Welcome to episode 1.4 of LOE!


    VirusTotal: Linked on the repo


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    Backend changes

    • Fixed an accidental thread-sleep slipping in; moving mods around should be smooth now.
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  • Version 1.3

    Welcome to episode 1.3 of LOE!


    VirusTotal: Linked on the repo


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    Backend changes

    • Fixed mods not being listed properly on start if newly added
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  • Version 1.2

    Welcome to episode 1.2 of LOE!

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    VirusTotal: That one false positive


    Not big of an update, just a patch. Useful for those with smaller screens!

    Thanks to @skybellrock#0546 and @TINYTEETH#6969 on Discord for this update.



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  • THIS IS NOT REQUIRED. USE AT YOUR OWN CAUTION.

    Since it's been asked around, here's my recommended order if you're looking to use a lot of mods.


    (1 loads first, 6 loads last - keep this in mind)

    1. Traders

    2. Minor overhauls, like SVM

    3. Custom/modded items

    4. Bigger overhauls, like SAIN/RaidOverhaul

    5. QoL stuff like UI Fixes

    6. Statistic items like ItemInfo/MoreCheckmarks

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  • Staff note: source code was reviewed and the single VirusTotal result is clearly a false positive and can be safely ignored.

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  • Would it be possible to add LOOT (Load Order Optimisation Tool - Skyrim Modding Tool) functionality?


    So that players only have to press one button to automatically sort all mods.


    This needs support from the mod devs.

    My idea for the implementation would be something like this:

    • Mods would need a file in there root directory let's call it loadorder
    • In that file the following gets specified:
      • The ModID - A name SPT-LOOT uses to sort the mods. When someone else updates the mod because the original author doesn't it would use the same ModID. The ModID should also be displayed on the mod page and in a database on the site so that two different mods don't use the same ModID on accident.
      • Which mods need to be loaded before and/or after their mod.
      • Requiered mods - The program should highlight mods that have missing requierements and output what is missing. Requiered mods will get loaded before this mod.
      • Incompatible mods - Highlight all incompatible mods with a description why they are incompatible.
    • If possible a minimum requiered version could be added, like for example Trader Lotus needs VCQL version 3.7 or higher. If need present it also highlights and explains what is wrong.

    • It's an interesting idea, but due to how:

      a) very detached server mods are from ordering (they will load even if they're not listed in `order.json`
      b) inconsistent some mods are (some mods have a filename that starts with zzz, some don't)
      c) different the SPT server mod system is from most other games I've played,

      There's no realistically viable way to add auto-sorting. Especially not when it needs support from the mod devs of this whole community.


      I agree that it's a good idea for implementation, but I see no reasonable way to do it that doesn't require a wholesale overhaul and change of the way server mods are made and loaded. The latter is out of my control and beyond the scope of the LOE project as a whole, really.

    • For the folder naming thing, the tool would do a for-loop for each folder inside the mods folder and grab the ModID and folder names. The sorting works based on the ModID but still writes the folder names into the `order.json` file.


      If 3.x can't do that, maybe in 4.x which is still in develoment.

  • Thank you for your work! I've used it for all by my first foray into SPT and it's just an amazing quality of life tool. (Even the auto-detection and re-direct for .NETcore - you didn't have to, but you did and it's appreciated.)

    • The idea of being convenient for users has become a big priority ever since I realized that people prefer being pointed in the right direction/told where to go animeokay


      Pleasure to be of service!

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  • Hello and thank you for the work <3 .

    I made this order, would you do any changes ? thank you

    "Virtual's Custom Quest Loader",

    "AAAArtem-WTT",

    "aMoxoPixel-Painter",

    "acidphantasm-bosseshavelegamedals",

    "acidphantasm-refsptfriendlyquests",

    "MoxoPixel-BlackCore",

    "MoxoPixel-TacticalGearComponent",

    "SPT-Realism",

    "BRNVG_N-15Adapter",

    "zSolarint-SAIN-ServerMod",

    "Skwizzy-LootingBots-ServerMod",

    "tyfon-uifixes",

    "odt-iteminfo",

    "MoreCheckmarksBackend"

    • Normally you're not really meant to change the load order unless absolutely necessary, so normally I wouldn't really suggest changes for individual people's orders. That said, if I were to change this myself, I'd just move AcidPhantasm's two mods underneath LootingBots, since they are miscellaneous "fix" mods.


      The rest looks fine.

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  • Is it possible to bring back the manual movement of the mods in the load order, instead of just pressing the arrows up or down like it's now? It's much quicker!
    And if it's possible to have an option to export and import the load order for later when reinstalling the game?

    • Manual movement? You can use arrow keys or WASD. If you want to click-and-drag I encourage using the other LOE tool instead.


      And sure, I can look into implementing that.

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  • is there an auto order funktion without putting any single mod manually in order ?

    bc i dont even wanna mess up my profile bc of false order root haha

    • Nope. The only auto order function is ordering alphabetically. This is because, normally, ordering mods isn't strictly necessary. This is for those who need to order mods and wanna do it easily.


      It's physically impossible to really tell which mods need to go before/after others, due to the nature of how SPT mods work, unless I make a database of named mods and where they should go. A database is definitely not happening, unfortunately.

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  • How can I improve this load order?

    Thank you!

    • Just letting you know in advance that your full name is visible through those links.


      As a general rule of thumb, from top to bottom below.


      (1 is top, 6 is bottom in the LOE list)


      1. Traders
      2. Minor overhauls, like SVM

      3. Custom/modded items

      4. Bigger overhauls, like SAIN/RaidOverhaul

      5. QoL stuff like UI Fixes

      6. Statistic items like ItemInfo/MoreCheckmarks

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  • Works like a charm with SPT 3.9.0, thank you so much!

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  • Are you still able to use the 2.4 version of the mod with SPT 3.8.3?

    • No. Server mod metadata changed in 3.9.0, meaning you'll have to use <2.3 for 3.8.3.

  • excuse me i have a problem with the mod, i dont know if its the order.jsn file or i did something wrong?

    here is the the popup when i use this app.

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    • You fucked up installing one of your mods. bundles, package, and README are mod files. They should not be in the mods folder, they should be in their specific mod folder.

    • i know, i fixed that. LOE should be working now.

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  • Any chance of a drag-n-drop version? It can get pretty annoying moving mods up from way at the bottom to the top, and its just generally more intuitive to make changes with a drag-drop method.

    • I've been looking into it. The tailored system that I use for listing mods is very proprietary and would need rewriting to support it. I also see that you've made your own version - that's dope!


      I might look into an alternate system that fits my aesthetic but remains functional. I've wanted D&D for a while too.

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    • ye mine's ass tho, i do not intend to maintain it. sincerely hoping you get around to it at some point :)

  • Works great thank you for this I never even used the order.json file till now. Kudos to the dev.

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  • LOE 2.1 won't launch for me, says .NET not installed. But it is? ?(


    and while I'm down here...

    Thanks for this and to all the other awesome Dev's around here :thumbup:

    • All good/my bad. Update to 2.3 and reinstalled .NET has resolved my this problem. Cheers :)

    • That's gotta be the weirdest problem fix I've ever seen. There's literally nothing about .NET being changed lol. Windows is funny.

  • What is the best way to organize the load order? Is there a tutorial somewhere?

    • The higher the number, the later the mod will load. A mod at position #1 will load first, a mod at position #5 will load after the first 4 mods.


      Priority: mod #2 will be able to modify data from mod #1.

      Mod #1 will NOT be able to modify data from mod #2.


      You want to put modded Traders as far in the start as you can. Modded items typically go after Traders. AI mods, SVM and overhauls (i.e ValensProgression, or AIOs) typically go as far back as possible. This is because AI and progression mods will use your modded items/other qol mods for bot generation or other things.


      A good concept is this (in terms of how LOE works):

      Modded traders at the top

      Modded items and quality-of-life mods in the middle

      AI, progression and overhauls at the bottom

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  • I am seeing all my mods double. The first ten include file paths.


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    • Where exactly does "Battlestate Games" lead? I definitely cannot reproduce this, and you are the first one I see with this issue. Could you elaborate on what you were doing when this occurred? What version you downloaded, when it happened, etc.


      EDIT: I also want to mention that, the way these mods are listed, is by LOE directly fetching the names of all the folders in your user/mods folder. They're then compiled into an array and thrown into order.json. I have no idea how you've managed to get one, let alone 10, full paths into this array..

    • it appeared after first use of the LOE 2.1. I did a fresh SPTARKOV install for 3.8. The Paths lead to the user/mods folder.


      my folderpath is D:\01_Games\Battlestate Games\SPTARKOV\users\mods


      I doublechecked that LOE was in the mods folder aswell.


      .... after the third fresh install of LOE 2.1 everything looks normal and works just fine

  • Windows is flaging this as a trojan, Trojan:Script/Phonzy.B!ml

    • Refer to Terkoizs' Comment above.


      "Staff note: source code was reviewed and the single VirusTotal result is clearly a false positive and can be safely ignored."

  • The new version (2.1) has a broken sidebar.Screenshot_2024-04-05_190635.png?ex=66225e72&is=660fe972&hm=92ca2a575adf0d2c29e3eadf1aa3457b06aa41e3fb6d326de83e93bb80ecf8c5&

    • I too am having issues with this, only mine looks different...image.png?ex=6622efc1&is=66107ac1&hm=e69153f3bb023c31dfd00b7d8325445262098a28bfd2554b932c3df1837367fd&

    • You are definitely not supposed to be able to fullscreen it. That's my bad, lol.


      After a chat with Drakia, I discovered that scaling issues have to do with running higher than 1080p and using Windows' scaling system set to 125/150%. I run 1440p with regular 100%, which is why I haven't been able to replicate this problem.


      I don't know what I want to do about this for now. I would not exactly love to rewrite the sidebar system, but I may have to.

    • I'm having the same issue, will wait and see if you find a resolution. Thanks for all you do.

    • Setting your resolution scale to 100% will make the mod viewable. When you're done moving around mods, just set the scale back to whatever you had it at before. I have a 4K monitor so mine defaults to 150%

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    • @WestParkGuy. I don't know if anyone has told you....but you're a hero.

  • 2.0 is suffering some weird error that I am not getting, but everyone else is.


    I am looking into it, apologies for the inconvenience.

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    • No apology necessary, hoping it'll be patched soon, need to use it for mods like Blackcore and Painter 8o

  • Can't get this to work. Installed exactly as described in the description and the README and I get same Error every time that it can't find the folder containing the server.

  • trying to use this and im getting a "We could not detect the server folder (where Aki.Server.exe is). Please put 'Load Order Editor.exe' into your user/mods folder and try again!" but it is in the mods folder and it has worked before. what am i doing wrong?

    • Having the exact same issue, probably just an issue with the plugin itself, no biggie, it'll be fixed.

    • Yeah, it's being looked into. I am the only one NOT getting this error at all, so it's hard to troubleshoot.

    • Is there anyway I can send you some sort of Log? never had to do something like before so if there is, I just don't know. Give me a heads up if there is, I will gladly do something like that if it makes your life easier.

    • There are no real logs produced for this. The problem is that it works fine for me, but not for anyone else. Thus I just kind of have to rely on what kind of code might work

    • Same issue here.

      If it helps at all, I have SPT installed on my E: drive, and the base folder is named "SPT3.8.0".

  • new update doesnt register mod folder

  • if i have a lot of mods that not mentioned the mode order. what should i do ?

    • The Aki server will include ALL existing mods in the mods folder. The load order only helps order the initial ones. Any mods NOT in the load order will be loaded in alphabetical order after the load ordered ones.

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  • I don't think I've found a time where Load order has mattered for me? Could you give some examples as to why this would matter?

    • TL;DR: It allows mods to overwrite changes done by other mods without conflicts or problems arising. It matters as soon as you use more than one mod and they both do something similar.

      If you have over 10 server mods installed, the chance of you needing a load order increases marginally per new mod you install.



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    • Beautiful thank you. I had figured as much. I wonder how difficult it would be to get a MO2 plugin working for SPT. In years of modding I still haven't touched a tool I've enjoyed as much as MO2.

    • Someone already did iIrc. It's this integration page. I'm not sure how useful it is to you though haha

    • Oh brother, you have changed my life. Thank you, also hope you/everyone had a good holidays. Thanks for the replys!

  • it probably does but i was curious if this was working on 3.7.4?

    • 100%


      I just forgot to update label. I'll do that now!

  • This has been working fantastic for me and its simple, effective, and intercepts another json file to have to trip over. I'll take json any day over xml, but I'll take your mod anyday over all of it.


    Is there a general load order guideline to follow for SPT yet, or is it still kinda what the developer says for load order, factor in and compare with your other mods accordingly? I feel like I'm starting to naturaly group them together but I could totally have everything backwards very easily. :P


    Thanks for making this tool!

    • Generally, the unwritten rule of load ordering is modded items first, traders second, server stuff third, and AI mods last.


      For example, you'd load a regular modded gun first off, then the trader it belongs to (if any), after that comes SVM, then comes SAIN + Waypoints. The reason for this ordering is because modded items are database related, so they load first to ensure that their traders can fetch their item from the database and use it.


      Traders are a middle-of-the-road kind of thing. Needs some database support, but not inherently as much as SVM. AI mods are last as they may use modded items and values SVM changes, thus they are last. They also often use connected client mods.

  • No offense but jJust want to know wats the point to edit order.json? Isnt it easier to just edit the folder name?

    • You could debate the point of anything made on here. The point is what your opinion of convenience is. SPT's devs deliberately created order.json in order to avoid having to edit the folder names, and all this app does is make the editing of said json seamless and fluid.


      To experienced users with a skill, this app is completely redundant and pointless.

      To novice users who don't like having to manually order mods around and like an AIO solution, this app is likely a life saver.


      I know that I never manually edit anymore, I always use LOE. Huge time saver in my honest opinion.

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    • I see:) ty for the reply.

  • Thanks for the LOE, it's a huge QoL and honestly should be something included in base SPT.

    I have one issue tho. If I have a lot of mods and I want to move a mod from the top to the bottom, or vice versa, once I go high/low enough I don't see the mod anymore. I don't really know how to explain it. So here are some pictures



    Here I have mod #21 selected and I want to move it down.
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    Once I move it down, it falls off the list. I don't know where it is, and I have to scroll the window down to find out where on the order it is.

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    Would it be possible for it to automatically scroll up/down with it?

    • Ah, hi there. I see what the issue is. I'm not sure how flexible the default component is that I use for scrolling, but I will look into it. There should be a way to fix this, be it a janky workaround or proper solution.


      Thanks for reporting :thumbup:

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  • I've updated to 1.5 and noticed that there is no longer a "cache cleared" popup after I open it? Is it just silent now or not happening at all?

    • It doesn't give you that message if there is no cache to clear.