Live Like Experience - SAIN Preset 1.2.0

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PMC's and Bosses should be scary.

Live Like Experience - A SAIN Preset

Discord Thread


  • Provides manageable Scavs. They aren't usually fearsome warriors, but ignore them long enough and they might get lucky.
  • PMC's are a threat. A healthy mix of Chads and Normal players. They will be an issue.
  • Bosses and followers exist to be a challenge.
  • AI hearing is turned wayyyy down, the goal is to keep them from starring at walls and sitting in cover forever.
  • AI has some minor map specific tuning. For example, labs will see must more aggressive play than shoreline.


Overall this preset aims to provide a "Live Like Experience". Some raids will be easy, some raids you'll run into a super sweaty giga chad. Boss fights should be a challenge while scavs should usually be easy kills. I'm a believer of "if you're surviving every raid because the fights are a joke than it's not fun" camp, so expect to die sometimes.


This preset is what I play with, I'm a 30 something dad gamer with a military background. So the goal is fun, semi-realistic, and not soul crushing.

Install

1. Drag and drop like the below image.

2. In-game press F6 to open the SAIN menu and ensure Live Like Experience is selected. Click save in the top right.

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Feel free to buy me an overpriced starbucks flat white - https://ko-fi.com/shibdib


This is under active development, I will provide updates as needed. Please provide feedback via comments.

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  • Version 1.2.0

    • Shibdib
    • 778 Downloads

    1.2.0


    This is intended to be the last update for 3.11 (Unless there's some major issue)


    Global

    - Nerf hearing

    - Nerf aggression

    - Tweak optics ideal ranges

    - More recoil for bots

    - Disable AI limiter for bot v bot

    - Bots will look further away for cover

    - Increase range bots will skip finding cover


    PMC

    - Nerf hearing

    - Remove aim for head from all except Impossible bots


    Bosses/Followers/Other

    - Nerf hearing

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  • Version 1.1.9

    • Shibdib
    • 767 Downloads

    1.1.9


    Smoothing

    - Make bots spin faster.. This might suck or it might fix issues some Fika/Headless people are seeing with bots not being able to track targets


    Scavs

    - Hearing buffed (they were inadvertently getting double nerfed)


    Raiders

    - Slight nerf to aggression


    Labs

    - Nerf the bot hearing range even more so they stop swarming

  • Version 1.1.8

    • Shibdib
    • 1.4k Downloads

    1.1.8


    PMC

    - Buff their scatter

    - Buff their vision speed

    - Overall make them not suck


    Bosses/Guards

    - Nerfed ALL of their aggression because they were obnoxious


    Night Vision

    - I think I had this backwards, bots should struggle to see at night now


    Hearing Randomization

    - Increase the range that bots should "think" you shot at them from


    Bushes

    - Turn off advanced bush raycast to try and mitigate getting blasted thru bushes

  • Version 1.1.7

    • Shibdib
    • 764 Downloads

    PMC

    • Move PMC aggression out of the bot type and have it be entirely determined by the personality of the bot
    • Fix some USEC guys being deaf

    LABS

    • This map is dumb, further nerf hearing range for bots on labs as a hacky fix to sound occlusion not making any sense on this map

    Sorry for the daily updates :), yell at me in the discord thread with issues.

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  • Version 1.1.6

    • Shibdib
    • 429 Downloads

    1.1.6 "EYEBALLS"

    NOTE - This fixes a bug where bots were taking an extremely long time to see things. This will make this preset noticeably more difficult.


    Vision

    - Bots now see things in real time and not at an 80% reduction (Bosses/Guards/High end pmc's are a tiny bit faster)

    - Bots should now correctly get debuffs to vision at night

    - Greatly reduced the view range of scavs and pmc's

    - Reduced the view range of rogues on loothouse


    Other

    - The boys got nerfed again. (Please stop chasing me across the map)

    - Removed a lot of global settings and moved the focus to specific bot types (Global settings were confusing things as there's a lot of unintended overlap)


    Reminder to use the discord thread (linked in the description) as the quickest way to report issues.

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  • Version 1.1.5

    • Shibdib
    • 498 Downloads

    1.1.5


    - Nerf scavs vision a bit along with a few other tweaks

    - More nerfs to the boys aggressiveness

    - Labs specific tweaks to make it less swarmy

    - Rework rogues and raiders for the 184th time

    - PMC tweaks to make them slightly more varied and less all chadlike

    - Small aggression tweaks for personalities

    - More hearing changes. Specifically for occluded sounds (Please stop swarming me from outside buildings/rooms)


    USE THE DISCORD CHANNEL TO DISCUSS ISSUES/REQUESTS https://discord.com/channels/8…99922/1403070451449725028

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  • Version 1.1.4

    • Shibdib
    • 392 Downloads

    1.1.4


    - Added a random chance for more "fun" pmc personalities

    - Nerf the boys aggression a bit

    - Smoothing tweaks (no more spinbot?)

    - Scav balancing (try to make them less braindead)

    - PRONE

    - Hearing Tweaks (Lots)

    - PMC Tweaks


    Full Changelog: https://github.com/shibdib/SPT…AIN/compare/1.1.3...1.1.4

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  • Version 1.1.3

    • Shibdib
    • 877 Downloads

    This just fixes the version error, 1.1.2 will work fine I'm just dumb and forgot to change that.

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  • Version 1.1.2

    • Shibdib
    • 63 Downloads

    1.1.2


    - Raider Tweaks

    - Labs Tweaks

    - Updated for SAIN 4.1.3

  • Version 1.1.1

    • Shibdib
    • 718 Downloads

    1.1.1

    Scavs nerfed

    • Lower aggression
    • Lower hearing
    • Fixed backwards scatter

  • Discord Thread for discussing the preset.

  • is the ability to make scavs investigate shooting and what not a thing? I be shooting and no one comes. I have sain but looking for setting to change to make that happen. Thanks in advance

    • Their hearing has been significantly nerfed. But should still be enough that local scavs will investigate.


      Note the suppressed weapons have received a veryyyy big buff to the range bots react to them (buff in the sense that they cut down the distance compared to unsuppressed by a very large percentage)

  • Do you use MOAR or ABPS? If yes, what's your setup with them, asking so I can use the preset in the intented way. Thanks for making and maintaining it.

    • I use a custom ABPS I tweaked with PMC hotspots.


      I know why you're asking as another preset went in depth with their spawn settings. But I don't think it plays as big of a part as they make it out to be. Spawn settings are very user dependent and moreso come into play with what your goals are for your raids.

  • Anyone else having bot open door and flying right thru them???

    • That's a SAIN thing. It's the workaround for them getting stuck. The only "fix" would be to turn off doors entirely.

    • Ah ty havent played in a while.

  • literally just constant 300 meter moving headshots at night time no goggles. not fun

    • The exact opposite of what I've been told by a few people of the night time changes

  • How does this compare to just putting SAIN on Death Wish?

    • I don't actually know. The goal of this isn't to be hard, but to be live like. So sometimes fights are easy, sometimes you get Chad'd by a PMC jump shooting you with M995. Scavs are predictable but not something you can ignore.

  • is it playable for pony? pikapika

  • Still getting alot of "instant turning and one-shot to head-face or head-eyes" by bots unfortunately.

    • go to personalities and turn off fuckign snappingturtle. they shoot like aimbot

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    • Thank you bro! Idk why it was enabled in the first place.

  • nice config keep up the good work... i like it so far makes spt very good....

  • what are "the boys"?

  • How can I reduce the reaction time of bots when I shoot in their direction? They instantly know exactly where I’m shooting from, even if I’m 300 meters away.

    • they also wait to aim the head without fire. how i fix that also?

    • Having That's Lit installed and turning down bot aggression helped alleviate that somewhat in 3.9.8 - bots would still spot you fairly fast from a mile away, but would prioritize running to cover instead of shooting. Doesn't seem to do anything now, plus That's Lit still hasn't gotten a proper 3.11 update.

  • Every time I update, I will open a new round. Please don't miss this MOD

  • Installed the latest patch and AI isn't targeting anything, anyone know if it's a toggle setting that was left on?

  • What on earth did you do? Installing this mod made the game so much more fun!

    I used to play with the SAIN DeadArtist preset, but I never really felt like the AI acted "human."

    But after installing this mod, the AI now shoots at me from the right position at the right time.

    They act like players who are actually using sound to track me—it's incredible!

    I'm having a great time, and I really hope you keep updating this mod in the future.

    • Haha most the credit goes to solar for SAIN. Even with the small PR's I've done there and this preset he's put 100x more time and effort into making the AI enjoyable.


      As far as the preset goes glad you enjoy it. I'm still tweaking some things (main concern atm is getting PMC's to stop feeling so snappy and almost spin bot like at times).

  • haha! a hot fix! REJOICE!

  • Just installed it and game under SAIN settings still saying preset version is 4.1.1? Anyone else getting this too?

    • I forgot to kick the version, it'll work fine. Will be fixed in next version

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  • Sounds interesting and will give it a go and see how it is.. But I dont have NO Military background so don't expect me to be all crazy....well just alittle 5150 crazy XD

  • Did you remember to update Vision Speed Multiplier under the bots' difficulty settings? SAIN 4.1.1, which it says your preset is for, in their update notes says: "Fixed Vision Speed Multiplier being opposite what it should be. Causing bots to see very slowly on hard sain presets, and see quickly on easy presets. All old presets are going to be affected". In SAIN settings, it says higher is more difficult and value of 2 means bots will spot enemies twice as fast, but I can't remember if that's the old description or a new one.


    In your preset Vision Speed Multiplier goes down as bots get more difficult. For example BEAR bots have 0.8 on normal, 0.7 on hard, and 0.6 on impossible. Shouldn't it be the other way around now?

  • Thank you!

  • Latest Version Discussion


    My Concerns

    - Everything as it's a test build for a finicky new SAIN version.

    • Main thing I've noticed is scavs might be slightly overtuned. Going to lower their aggression and gunshot hearing a bit as they can get swarmy.

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    • Hi,


      Does 1.1.0 work with SAIN 4.1.2?

    • Yes

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  • Will he update?

    • He will.. not.. maybe..


      I don't have 3.11 installed at the moment. It should still "work" although it wont have any testing done for new features solar has added.

    • He is an important reason for my return to 3.11.3!

  • First of all thanks for the work and this preset i tested a couple of Raids with it I kinda like the PMC's they seem to be in a good balance.

    But for my liking Scav's are a little bit to easy sometimes i can walk almost behind them and they dont notice me, some of them also react very slow too, I know some might say Scav's should be easy and stuff but i find they should be a bit of a challenge and not a free kill, but thats only my opinion.

  • Thanks for taking the time to configure the setting for SAIN. I've tried, but the AI are either gods or don't respond when I'm a foot behind them. I find .6 to be the best one so far. The most recent one had me getting shafted by pmc AI locking on in an instant and laser beaming me from miles away all in a split second on the larger maps.

  • sorry, is it work with "please just fight?“

  • First, absolutely amazing.

    Second, ABSOLUTELY AMAZING

  • PCM's feels great, but Scavs feels a bit too much. Possible to have default Scavs and only PMC's buffed?

    • Too much in that they're too dumb or too hard? I've been think they're too dumb lately.

    • Too aggresive, especially when in group, they push you. IF so i believe their scatter should be default, since they shouldnt be too much of a threat, unless it's what you want. to Have Terminator's PMC's and hard scavs. Or maybe it feels like that for me since it fresh lvl 1 account.

    • i agree, scavs are too aggressive kinda esp if they hear gunshots or spot loot they rush you like crazy. i think a bit more delay for the shot reaction would be helpful. i found it a bit more pleasant because pmcs should kill scavs not the other way.

  • Can you guys advise how to increase the difficulty of bots even higher? I have a statistical survival rate of 75 percent)

  • There should be some sound nerf
    shooting a gun and then 6 pmcs or scavs come run at me from the other side of the map isnt that grteat

  • mod good!!!!

  • This preset is so much fun. And you manage make it better and better every time. Thank you for your time and work!