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Live Like Experience - A SAIN Preset
Discord Thread
- Provides manageable Scavs. They aren't usually fearsome warriors, but ignore them long enough and they might get lucky.
- PMC's are a threat. A healthy mix of Chads and Normal players. They will be an issue.
- Bosses and followers exist to be a challenge.
- AI hearing is turned wayyyy down, the goal is to keep them from starring at walls and sitting in cover forever.
- AI has some minor map specific tuning. For example, labs will see must more aggressive play than shoreline.
Overall this preset aims to provide a "Live Like Experience". Some raids will be easy, some raids you'll run into a super sweaty giga chad. Boss fights should be a challenge while scavs should usually be easy kills. I'm a believer of "if you're surviving every raid because the fights are a joke than it's not fun" camp, so expect to die sometimes.
This preset is what I play with, I'm a 30 something dad gamer with a military background. So the goal is fun, semi-realistic, and not soul crushing.
Install
1. Drag and drop like the below image.
2. In-game press F6 to open the SAIN menu and ensure Live Like Experience is selected. Click save in the top right.
Feel free to buy me an overpriced starbucks flat white - https://ko-fi.com/shibdib
This is under active development, I will provide updates as needed. Please provide feedback via comments.
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Version 1.1.8
- Shibdib
- 1.1k Downloads
1.1.8
PMC
- Buff their scatter
- Buff their vision speed
- Overall make them not suck
Bosses/Guards
- Nerfed ALL of their aggression because they were obnoxious
Night Vision
- I think I had this backwards, bots should struggle to see at night now
Hearing Randomization
- Increase the range that bots should "think" you shot at them from
Bushes
- Turn off advanced bush raycast to try and mitigate getting blasted thru bushes
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Version 1.1.7
- Shibdib
- 756 Downloads
PMC
- Move PMC aggression out of the bot type and have it be entirely determined by the personality of the bot
- Fix some USEC guys being deaf
LABS
- This map is dumb, further nerf hearing range for bots on labs as a hacky fix to sound occlusion not making any sense on this map
Sorry for the daily updates :), yell at me in the discord thread with issues.
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Version 1.1.6
- Shibdib
- 417 Downloads
1.1.6 "EYEBALLS"
NOTE - This fixes a bug where bots were taking an extremely long time to see things. This will make this preset noticeably more difficult.
Vision
- Bots now see things in real time and not at an 80% reduction (Bosses/Guards/High end pmc's are a tiny bit faster)
- Bots should now correctly get debuffs to vision at night
- Greatly reduced the view range of scavs and pmc's
- Reduced the view range of rogues on loothouse
Other
- The boys got nerfed again. (Please stop chasing me across the map)
- Removed a lot of global settings and moved the focus to specific bot types (Global settings were confusing things as there's a lot of unintended overlap)
Reminder to use the discord thread (linked in the description) as the quickest way to report issues.
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Version 1.1.5
- Shibdib
- 487 Downloads
1.1.5
- Nerf scavs vision a bit along with a few other tweaks
- More nerfs to the boys aggressiveness
- Labs specific tweaks to make it less swarmy
- Rework rogues and raiders for the 184th time
- PMC tweaks to make them slightly more varied and less all chadlike
- Small aggression tweaks for personalities
- More hearing changes. Specifically for occluded sounds (Please stop swarming me from outside buildings/rooms)
USE THE DISCORD CHANNEL TO DISCUSS ISSUES/REQUESTS https://discord.com/channels/8…99922/1403070451449725028
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Version 1.1.4
- Shibdib
- 382 Downloads
1.1.4
- Added a random chance for more "fun" pmc personalities
- Nerf the boys aggression a bit
- Smoothing tweaks (no more spinbot?)
- Scav balancing (try to make them less braindead)
- PRONE
- Hearing Tweaks (Lots)
- PMC Tweaks
Full Changelog: https://github.com/shibdib/SPT…AIN/compare/1.1.3...1.1.4
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Version 1.1.3
- Shibdib
- 874 Downloads
This just fixes the version error, 1.1.2 will work fine I'm just dumb and forgot to change that.
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Version 1.1.2
- Shibdib
- 57 Downloads
1.1.2
- Raider Tweaks
- Labs Tweaks
- Updated for SAIN 4.1.3
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Version 1.1.1
- Shibdib
- 713 Downloads
1.1.1
Scavs nerfed
- Lower aggression
- Lower hearing
- Fixed backwards scatter
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Version 1.1.0
- Shibdib
- 736 Downloads
Initial release for 4.1.x of SAIN
DOES NOT WORK WITH OLDER VERSIONS
Please report issues, will also be tweaking as I go on my end.
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Version 1.0.7
- Shibdib
- 5.5k Downloads
Hearing
- Removed the global hearing debuff in favor of more selective debuffs
- No more sneaking up and touching bots because your feet are silent
- Tweaked all of the random ranges (healing/reloading/etc..)
- Gunshot sounds should still be nerfed to avoid swarming
Scavs
- Received a slight buff to aiming while moving
Rogues
- Received a massive nerf to aggression in an attempt to get them to stop pathing out of rogue camp
- Massive buff to vision to snipe you with the mounted guns when you're cheesing on the rock
PMC's
- Slight buff to the odds they'll try to shoot you in the face
- Slight buff to aiming while moving
- Slight buff to aiming at range
Changes from 1.0.6 - https://github.com/shibdib/SPT…AIN/compare/1.0.6...1.0.7
Shibdib Author
Discord Thread for discussing the preset.
Shibdib Author
Latest Version Discussion
My Concerns
- Everything as it's a test build for a finicky new SAIN version.
Shibdib Author
Main thing I've noticed is scavs might be slightly overtuned. Going to lower their aggression and gunshot hearing a bit as they can get swarmy.
ThatDesGuy
Hi,
Does 1.1.0 work with SAIN 4.1.2?
Shibdib Author
Yes
Mr.Monkey
literally just constant 300 meter moving headshots at night time no goggles. not fun
ehaugw
How does this compare to just putting SAIN on Death Wish?
Shibdib Author
I don't actually know. The goal of this isn't to be hard, but to be live like. So sometimes fights are easy, sometimes you get Chad'd by a PMC jump shooting you with M995. Scavs are predictable but not something you can ignore.
poneais
is it playable for pony?
tomcruise123
Still getting alot of "instant turning and one-shot to head-face or head-eyes" by bots unfortunately.
De2pStrike
go to personalities and turn off fuckign snappingturtle. they shoot like aimbot
tomcruise123
Thank you bro! Idk why it was enabled in the first place.
jaytonic105
nice config keep up the good work... i like it so far makes spt very good....
Sting
what are "the boys"?
SirDigby
Goons; Birdeye, Bigpipe, Knight.
tzeapa
How can I reduce the reaction time of bots when I shoot in their direction? They instantly know exactly where I’m shooting from, even if I’m 300 meters away.
De2pStrike
they also wait to aim the head without fire. how i fix that also?
hC6nm6DH5x
Having That's Lit installed and turning down bot aggression helped alleviate that somewhat in 3.9.8 - bots would still spot you fairly fast from a mile away, but would prioritize running to cover instead of shooting. Doesn't seem to do anything now, plus That's Lit still hasn't gotten a proper 3.11 update.
damecool
Every time I update, I will open a new round. Please don't miss this MOD
Yeebie
Installed the latest patch and AI isn't targeting anything, anyone know if it's a toggle setting that was left on?
Gmoz
What on earth did you do? Installing this mod made the game so much more fun!
I used to play with the SAIN DeadArtist preset, but I never really felt like the AI acted "human."
But after installing this mod, the AI now shoots at me from the right position at the right time.
They act like players who are actually using sound to track me—it's incredible!
I'm having a great time, and I really hope you keep updating this mod in the future.
Shibdib Author
Haha most the credit goes to solar for SAIN. Even with the small PR's I've done there and this preset he's put 100x more time and effort into making the AI enjoyable.
As far as the preset goes glad you enjoy it. I'm still tweaking some things (main concern atm is getting PMC's to stop feeling so snappy and almost spin bot like at times).
Musambe TUTU
haha! a hot fix! REJOICE!
TimboSlice81
Just installed it and game under SAIN settings still saying preset version is 4.1.1? Anyone else getting this too?
Shibdib Author
I forgot to kick the version, it'll work fine. Will be fixed in next version
Demigods
Sounds interesting and will give it a go and see how it is.. But I dont have NO Military background so don't expect me to be all crazy....well just alittle 5150 crazy XD
BiancaLikesPlushies
samw
Demigods
Seems like the preset doesn't work with the newer version of SAIN that is out.
Noods
Did you remember to update Vision Speed Multiplier under the bots' difficulty settings? SAIN 4.1.1, which it says your preset is for, in their update notes says: "Fixed Vision Speed Multiplier being opposite what it should be. Causing bots to see very slowly on hard sain presets, and see quickly on easy presets. All old presets are going to be affected". In SAIN settings, it says higher is more difficult and value of 2 means bots will spot enemies twice as fast, but I can't remember if that's the old description or a new one.
In your preset Vision Speed Multiplier goes down as bots get more difficult. For example BEAR bots have 0.8 on normal, 0.7 on hard, and 0.6 on impossible. Shouldn't it be the other way around now?
Shibdib Author
I'll check this tomorrow
Danko
Thank you!
damecool
Will he update?
Shibdib Author
He will.. not.. maybe..
I don't have 3.11 installed at the moment. It should still "work" although it wont have any testing done for new features solar has added.
damecool
He is an important reason for my return to 3.11.3!
Mark1502
First of all thanks for the work and this preset i tested a couple of Raids with it I kinda like the PMC's they seem to be in a good balance.
But for my liking Scav's are a little bit to easy sometimes i can walk almost behind them and they dont notice me, some of them also react very slow too, I know some might say Scav's should be easy and stuff but i find they should be a bit of a challenge and not a free kill, but thats only my opinion.
NimbleChip
Thanks for taking the time to configure the setting for SAIN. I've tried, but the AI are either gods or don't respond when I'm a foot behind them. I find .6 to be the best one so far. The most recent one had me getting shafted by pmc AI locking on in an instant and laser beaming me from miles away all in a split second on the larger maps.
Bing
sorry, is it work with "please just fight?“
flykzyt
First, absolutely amazing.
Second, ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
markopas
PCM's feels great, but Scavs feels a bit too much. Possible to have default Scavs and only PMC's buffed?
Shibdib Author
Too much in that they're too dumb or too hard? I've been think they're too dumb lately.
markopas
Too aggresive, especially when in group, they push you. IF so i believe their scatter should be default, since they shouldnt be too much of a threat, unless it's what you want. to Have Terminator's PMC's and hard scavs. Or maybe it feels like that for me since it fresh lvl 1 account.
ezlife
i agree, scavs are too aggressive kinda esp if they hear gunshots or spot loot they rush you like crazy. i think a bit more delay for the shot reaction would be helpful. i found it a bit more pleasant because pmcs should kill scavs not the other way.
limo9966
Can you guys advise how to increase the difficulty of bots even higher? I have a statistical survival rate of 75 percent)
defjew
There should be some sound nerf
shooting a gun and then 6 pmcs or scavs come run at me from the other side of the map isnt that grteat
chanisul
mod good!!!!
becksprofi
This preset is so much fun. And you manage make it better and better every time. Thank you for your time and work!
Jonnecy
how are Scavs with this preset ? the standard SCAV using SAIN is nearly indistinguishable from your average PMC compared to live Scavs. not sure why they need to be like that...
Mayoringram
Do you personally use That's Lit and optimize these values for that or SAIN only?
Shibdib Author
I do not use that's lit but it should work fine alongside it.
ezlife
is it possible to completely disable the pmc yapping without affecting other bots?
I see no reason why pmcs should reveal their location midfight by yapping “I'm reloading”.
AmsPhysics
bot settings, then go to pmcs and talking is under the "mind" section
ezlife
It disables most of the talk but it doesn't disable the talk completely, I don't use the GUI as I host a dedi but I have edited the configs. But thanks anyway. I was just hoping to find a preset that simply deactivates the blablabla without exception. I also loaded SAIN last to make sure nothing is overriding it. I noticed you uploaded your own preset recently, did you deactivate the talk?
AmsPhysics
unfortunately i did not, i kinda like the talk personally. i could make you non talk version if i can figure out how to get it off completely
AmsPhysics
There is a non talk version on my github. let me know if it works on my page, i dont wanna clutter shibdib's page