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Or.. tweaks? Doesn't matter. Vanilla recoil sucks anyway.

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  • Version 1.9.0

    • pein
    • 673 Downloads
    • Added an alternate spring-based version of real recoil with auto-compensation, has to be enabled manually
    • Added an option to enable 1.7.2-style recoil calculations, has to be enabled manually and requires config edits. Read the description
    • Added options to configure hip fire penalty multipliers
    • Some other small things here and there
    • Hopefully no broken configs or major bugs :)
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  • Version 1.8.0

    • pein
    • 1.5k Downloads

    Ever-so-slightly experimental once again. Report bugs and issues.

    • Added dynamic recoil value adjustment, which applies modifiers to config values based on the weapon's recoil values
    • Combined pistol and recoil config categories
    • Adjusted server-side recoil values for several weapons
    • Removed server override
    • Bug fixes
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  • Version 1.7.2

    • pein
    • 1.1k Downloads
    • Fixed real recoil multiplier config values
    • Pistol tweak for left stance
    • Adjusted some config descriptions

    Hopefully the last update for a little while, looking to rework some code.

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  • Version 1.7.1

    • pein
    • 1.3k Downloads
    • Added missing null check, should actually fix that NRE related to switching weapons
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  • Version 1.7.0

    • pein
    • 215 Downloads
    • Removed custom left stance...
    • ... and re-enabled vanilla left shoulder stance. With all it's jank.. but better compatibility with other mods. Hooray!
    • Added configurations for visual recoil roll

  • Version 1.6.1

    • pein
    • 551 Downloads
    • Fixed NREs related to shooting, dropping equipped weapons and left stance
    • Left stance component code changes, left stance should properly show up in third person. please reset your left stance settings. thanks :)
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  • Version 1.6.0

    • pein
    • 490 Downloads
    • Added weapon class specific real recoil settings
    • Added real recoil stance multipliers
    • Added options that let camera recoil springs use real recoil direction
    • Tweaked AUG and Vector server side values
    • Tweaked some default config values, most notably reduced vanilla rotational recoil
    • Maybe something else noteworthy but I wouldn't know
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  • Version 1.5.1

    • pein
    • 712 Downloads
    • Fixed overlapping config keys for slow and fast recoil springs
    • Removed camera recoil spring debug print
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  • Version 1.5.0

    • pein
    • 431 Downloads

    Ever-so-slightly experimental. Report bugs and issues.

    FONTAINE'S FOV FIX RECOMMENDED FOR VERSIONS 1.5.0 AND ABOVE!

    • Added additional camera recoil
    • Tweaked several default config values
    • Refactored client configs in the backend

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  • Version 1.4.0

    • pein
    • 1.8k Downloads
    • Added Really Real Recoil™
    • Updated several config value defaults (mostly for pistols)
    • Tweaked M4A1, HK416, SA58
    • APB fix
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  • Are AIs also affected by 'Real recoil vertical mult' and 'Real recoil horizontal mult' values?

    • no

  • Regarding the new alternate spring based real recoil option: Is there a way to configure it so that the "zero" moves up with each shot rather than staying the same at the start of a "burst"? I like how one shot returns to its original position, but if you hold the trigger down, the barrel will stop rising at a certain point and just stay in that area until the magazine empties.

    • interesting idea, ill keep this one in mind

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  • recoil still insane even after deleting config, 1.7.1 recoil was perfect, i would understand this recoil if you could pull down easily like in realism or insurgency sandstorm

    • Same issues with this update too!

    • even with the new config setting i added? (1.7.2 Recoil Values, vertical mult 2.0, horizontal mult 0.7, default category multipliers)

    • well the 1.7.2 recoil text box said other wise (4.0 vert, 0.6 hor), tried it again with your numbers and without tweaking the numbers with 1.7.2 checked, it is good but the 1.7.1 version felt better to shoot, maybe its just placebo or maybe its harder to pull down your mouse to counter the recoil in this version?

    • could be placebo because the setting makes the mod use the exact same value for real recoil as 1.7 did. ill double check it later

    • dont think its placebo, its 1.9.0 has recoil going up in a vertical line like in insurgency if you dont control it, while 1.7.1 doesnt go up as fast, is easier to control (pull down) and goes more around a circle of the target zone, which feels smoother for me

  • I confirm that the recoil at the shooting range is too high, I haven't been on a raid yet

  • Recoil is insanely high in hideout and raid, still. Removed config file, reinstalled, tried some previous versions, nothing works.


    I'm also not sure if your footage is just good recoil control or not, and that I am just misinterpreting this mod as a rework rather than a difficulty increase. Would be helpful if you full sprayed without controlling as a baseline example.


    For reference though, whenever I shoot 1 shot of a pb pistol at the back middle target's head in firing range, it recoils to slightly above the wall, with like 20 degree horizontal recoil sometimes, which seems pretty ridiculous.

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    • This started to happen to me too. Every shot the guns recoil too hard

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    • could either be a config issue or my fuckup, unable to test for a little while

    • The issue started after the last update!

    • New update is the same as 1.8.0, but just enabling "use 1.7.2 recoil values" makes recoil behave like what I can assume is normal, because it doesn't match 1.7.2 which was also bugged, and it's enjoyable.


      That's without following the extra steps in the description though, because when I do, it goes back to 1.8.0 recoil.


      Doing the same test with the pb pistol, the iron sights meet the bottom of the metal beam below the ceiling perfectly. The pb pistol is also much easier to control when spamming compared to last time.

  • as others have mentioned, recoil crank in the hideout is pretty insane in 1.8.0.

    in-raid, recoil is a bit better.

    high recoil persists after deleting BepInEx\config\com.pein.camerarecoilmod.cfg.

    1.7.2 recoil in hideout is normal.

    • clips would be appreciated, send them to me on discord or ping me in the wtt discord in my channel

    • here you go.

    • what are the recoil stats on that weapon, guessing its modded? does this happen with any other weapon?

    • vertocal ecoil is 90, horizontal is 220. Mk47 with vanilla weapon mods.

      high recoil also happens with every other gun, pistols, ARs, SMGs, etc. a AS VAL with vanilla attachments and 50 vertical recoil also does this. 167 horizontal.

    • id like to say that i did pretty extensive testing of 1.8.0 before pushing it out. if changing the real recoil settings doesnt help then ill be able to test everything in a couple of days.

  • Hey, can I ask which settings I would need to change to reduce hip fire recoil/spread when not using a laser/flashlight? I was able to dial in recoil how I wanted for ADS and when using a laser/flashlight but if I hip fire on auto with no light on it goes pretty nuts lol like by end of mag I'm shotting 3 body lengths away at the ceiling :D If I turn my light/laser back on though I'm back to a very controlled grouping

    • no config for that. ill keep it in mind

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    • Aight, thanks for the quick response. Would be cool if not too much trouble for you to work something like that in, I'm not sure why but my unassisted hip fire seems wildly exaggerated with this mod installed vs vanilla, but I just gotta keep a laser or flash light ready cause the tweaks to ads & recoil with a light while using this are chefs kiss lol totally worth the tradeoff xD

  • Can I ask, does this mod lower recoil when using attachments? I miss that from Fontaine's. (and obviously everything else realism adds).

    Anyway I'm hoping the weapons weight modifies the recoil. thinking that would be an easy enough way to implement as I'm pretty sure attachments add weight right? anyway thanks for mod.

    Glory to the Modders

    • attachments affect real recoil, weight doesnt... yet.

  • For those updating to 1,8.0, reset all the mod settings with the reset button or delete the mod config file. Otherwise your recoil will be ridiculously high.

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    • Thanks, was just coming to post that I was getting crazy recoil with a Vector with 38 vertical recoil.

    • On further inspection, couldn't get it to work. Completely reinstalled 1.8.0 and reset all settings in the F12 menu. Still crazy recoil with both the Vector and HK416. Reverting back to 1.7.2 for now.

    • havent updated myself so i dont know if this works, but try deleting this file: SPT 3.11.3\BepInEx\config\com.pein.camerarecoilmod.cfg

    • I have to thank you with all my heart, I was doing the punisher pt.1 quest with the AKM on shoreline and I was wondering already like "How come the recoil is so incredibly insane with this gun and is actually impossible to hit anything with at anything greater than 10 meters at full auto?". I thought it was just the mod or the game itself since I remember the 7.62x39 and greater calibers to have considerable recoil. Turns out it was this and you cant just overwrite all the files when updating and that I was playing the game in ultra hard mode. Still managed to get more than 20 kills with it though but mostly by shooting semi auto and through CQB.

      Anyways for anyone wondering how to update it, delete BepInEx\config\com.pein.camerarecoilmod.cfg, - BepInEx\Plugins\PeinRecoilRework.dll and user\mods\pein-sptrecoilrework . Afterwards just reinstall 1.8.0 version of this mod normally. It should then be completely fixed.

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    • ill try not to break everything with the next big update with my changes :P

  • I have a very difficult time seeing the magnifying scope that I hold with my left stance, is there a solution?

    • if you mean the camera is far away then fovfix has an option to change the distance while in left stance. i have it set to 0.07

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    • Thank you very much.

      It is now solid and easy to see.

  • Guys, what values should be written for zero recoil? If it is not too much trouble, you can write it in text.

    • disabling real recoil and setting rotation recoil multiplier values to 0

  • What exactly is different compared to vanilla?

    • добавленные анимации при отдаче, переделенная анимация отдачи и добавлен подброс от плеча.

    • i tried it and all my recoil was extremely up even with best attachments, maybe i fucked up something idk

  • Hello! Could we have more detailed descriptions for the config options?


    for example, I'm not sure if larger or smaller values for the "camera snap speed" make it snap faster, and since it takes anywhere from a few seconds to a game restart to take effect, it's tedious to figure stuff like this out for every single slider...

    • all settings update on weapon switch


      but yea updated descriptions are planned, theres just so many and never got around to it

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  • Dunno why, this mod causes heavy performance issues, Customs FPS dropped from 55-60 frames to 10-15? around the same on GZ
    I like the recoil, but the game becomes unplayable

    • are you on the latest version (1.7.1)? if yes send me logs on discord: peinful

    • havent had any issues myself

  • Seems to be an issue where occasionally in raid, if you loot an enemies weapon and try to use it, it either completely won't work (ie the gun model will cycle as if you can shoot it, you can ads, etc.) but it doesn't actually shoot or consume ammo, or, you'll pick up a gun and won't be able to shoot it, ads, or switch back to any other weapon or even move.

    I have a lot of mods lol, so I assume since combing through the comments, I haven't found anyone else reporting this issue, that this is likely due to conflict between this mod and one of my other ones


    Other than that, the recoil feels fantastic and I'd love to get this mod working properly!

    • im having this same problem, its very frustrating since the only way ive found how to fix it is by extracting. i have no idea if its from this mod though and i love alot of mods as well

    • The 'Hands Not Busy' mod is useful for those types of bugs. It resets your hands back to normal when you're stuck in animations.

    • yep, i have a potential fix ready

  • is there a way to enable the version of left stance that was before this update

    • no


      decided to remove it because of compatibility and it being really "hacky", if it makes sense. if i do bring it back in the future it'll have a better implementation and hopefully better compatibility with other mods

    • damnnn that was the closest I had to having TarkovIRL in 3.11 ;(

  • Had some strange bot behavior using this mod; bots would not shoot at me until I turned my back to them. They wouldn't reload if I was facing them either.
    Removed other new mods I installed today until this one, testing raids as I went. Bots seemed fine with this not in the mod list. Shame since the recoil effect is a big improvement over vanilla.

    • send me logs on discord: peinful

    • Thanks for the 1.6.1 update Pein, bots are back to killing me as normal.

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  • why doesnt it work in the Shooting range?

    • mod is previewed in shooting range?

    • seems like one of the updates broke it because its not working for me in the shooting range.

  • Wow this blew my expectations out the water, it feels so good. Customisation is extensive too.


    Shit that's another mod I can't live without now, you gotta promise to keep it updated with SPT :D

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    • we'll see

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    • Oh and do you know if the bepinex part needs to live on a headless client also? I figured just client but just wanted to make sure.

    • havent put it on mine, works fine

    • OK thanks!

    • I don't suppose you'd know if the load order would matter for a mod such as Shiny Airdrop Guns! which creates duplicate weapons with improved stats? I see there are some jsons for specific guns so I wanna make sure their stats get applied to the improved versions too.

  • Every single update I see, it just gets better. Also I love that it's configurable. Highly recommend to any player.

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    • I have noticed during playing that the current version with Real Recoil on has some significant front aperture deviation despite setting the horizontal and vertical deviation to 0 (basically trying to get COD MWII 2022 Style Recoil). Is there a way now to set the front and rear apertures to match during continuous automatic fire?

    • play around with the fast spring multipliers, since by default it only goes up

  • Great work, this feels better than base game and realism mod's recoil as someone with hundreds of hours on both. GGs

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  • Me and a Buddy are getting very different recoil amounts on a fresh install for both, is there any way you could do a video of the latest build using an m4a1 for example to show the baseline recoil and what to expect? Might help people who are on the fence about the mod as well :)!

    • Just to add to this, we had the same before, but after the implementation of the "Real Recoil" we get very different results

    • preview is a good idea, should have made one. currently not home though but ill make one later


      as for the recoil difference i wouldnt know without more details, i had my friends test 1.4.0 on fika and it seemed to work fine. could just be a config issue but im just guessing here. ill give it some testing when i get back home.

    • Thanks! On my end - My recoil was super dramatic in the hideout, but after getting in raid went back to normal, so a small bug on my end I guess!

  • Bro only if there was a way to bring pre 12.12.15 recoil back :S

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  • Iff your thinking of ever doing one last update , see iff you could keep the orginal left lean animation that would be cool 👍

    • maybe if i find a way that prevents it from messing with the weapon's recoil pivot point (my best guess). otherwise ill improve compatibility and add a toggle.

  • Sweet man! thanks for increasing the left stance angle, ya a legend!

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  • Anyone else occasionally get crazy-high recoil for no (discernable) reason?


    I had to remove this from my mod list because, regardless of the weapon i had equipped, recoil would sometimes max out. I thought it might be based on arm stamina at first, but no. Then I thought it might be based on arm health, but it happened when I was at full health.


    EDIT: Nevermind, read the last line of the description. I look forward to it being patched, this rework feels a lot better than vanilla imo!

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    • the description was outdated, i think its caused by recoil angle intensity values being improperly applied. try setting recoil angle intensity values for both pistols and rifles to 1.0 and see how it goes.


      also, your modlist would be greatly appreciated :)

    • Reinstalled and left default configs as-is. Unable to recreate so far, but I'll leave it installed and let you know if I see it again. I don't remember changing the configs in my initial install, but *shrug*


      Mods:

      Bot Placement System

      Ref SPR Friendly Quests

      Stat Track

      SPT Questing Bots

      Gekos Better Progression

      Leave It There

      More Checkmarks

      SPT Recoil Rework

      Raid Time Toy

      Looting Bots

      SPT Dynamic Maps

      Weapon Customizer

      Custom Quest Loader

      SAIN


      Plugins (removed duplicates)

      RNVG

      Waypoints

      Viewmodel Camera Offset

      Amand's

      Big Brain

      FOV Fix (new since issue)

      Advanced Modding Lights

      Quest Zones

  • Подскажите пожалуйста как тут убрать эффект попадания в тебя пуль? Ты только прицелился, если в тебя попадают( а рейдеры они всегда попадают) то просто не можешь выстрелить потому что тебя шатает из стороны в сторону из за их попадания по тебе.

  • does anyone else have a guns fire rate turn into like 2000 rpm and no firing sounds when downloaded?

    • nvm im as intelgent as room tempeture water

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    • Hey man all good we're all a little bit smooth brain sometimes xD

  • SO, you telling me that you ppl said that old recoil before 1.13 sucked, they changed it, and now you literally making it all the same as it was before 1.13? bruh.

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  • Этот мод убирает отдачу, или наоборот добавляет? Есть тогда мод на отдачу 0 для версии 3.11?

    • можно в этом моде настроить отдачу так, что бы ее не было. пойграйся с настройками

    • А что изменить подскажите пожалуйста. Или скиньте пожалуйста готовую что бы отдача было 0. Спасибо.

    • here is a video with the settings you need and a comparison

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    • Вот спасибо друг.

    • Подскажите еще 2 момента,

      1. где там поменять значения что бы при перезарядке не шатало.

      2. Как убрать эффект шатания когда по тебе попадают пули.

      Спасибо.