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  • It is with a heavy heart, That I'm here to announce that I am pulling my mods off of the site & No longer supporting the SPT-Hub. With the blatant mis-conduct of the SPT Staff Team as well as their repeat negative actions that not only hurt the community, But also modders as well.

    Many of the rules put in place extensively prohibit mod developers are arbitrary & overall do not provide security or any other proper safety measures. Currently alot of the rules just restrict modders. Here's a few rules that come to mind.



    • Don't ask for money for services you provide (i.e. creating / distributing mods, selling in-game roubles) or promote such acts or platforms.

      This rule needs to be re-constructed. Within many modding communities, They allow & promote users to sell commissions & sell mods. Its an amazing way to support a creator while also getting something for it. (Cyberpunk 2077 & Skyrim are some of the best examples.)
    • If your mod contains .dll or .exe files
    • The file code should be open-source and recent. A link to a publicly accessible repository must be provided.


    For Modules (DLLs). You can very easily use a tool like DnSpy in order to see the code if it is written in dotnet & look at what it is doing. 85% of the users don't use the source anyways. You simply cannot hide anything from the decompiler, If someone were to put malicious code into their game files it would be detected by the mods & Staff. If a mod developer wants to be introduced to modding. The site has enough tutorials for them to read over & can easily take apart mods with DnSpy if they would really like to see the code.

    Overall this should 100% be a choice for mod developers as it is their right to withdraw access to their source code. As the only people who should be within the right to access it other than the owner is the staff members to verify it's legitimacy & overall safety if and when they have that concern.

    A good example of why this should be in place. Is because I as well as other modders get spammed when users try to change / update / compile their mods by people who simply lack the knowledge to do so themselves. As much as I want people to make mods for SPT & get into the toolset while also learning valuable skills for life. Going through someone elses code & doing the above mentioned is simply not the way to go about it. And unfortunately the hub encourages this behaviour. As for executable files I will agree that they should have open source code as they are not easily decompiled. IDA is simply not for everybody. Although I will agree 100% that mods should not be obfuscated.

    • Content that may be generally construed as provocative, divisive, objectionable, discriminatory, or abusive toward any real-world individual or group, may be subject to moderation. This includes but is not limited to content involving politics, race, religion, gender identity, sexuality, or social class.

      Simply put. The entire game is based around 2 countries hiring mercenary groups to fight each other. Politics are simply baked into the very fabric of the game. We are all adults and to be able to not have a breakdown or get "triggered" when seeing something we do not like & or dis-agree with. Which unfortunately many people cannot seem to control themselves when it comes to this. The staff turn a blind-eye to this unless you / the mod simply don't fit into their agenda (more on this later). Everything crossed out makes sense and is fine. Here are some examples of this rule being broken without staff intervening after warnings. (side note. Literally anything with a country flag or any sort of patch that goes to literally any branch of any military can be deemed political.)

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    • Only use English for communicating on the website.

      This is discriminatory to other nations & people who simply do not understand english. DeepL exists as well as a plethora of other translators. I've communicated with many Russian & Chinese members of the community within their language, They simply shouldn't be blocked out of commenting on posts because of their language barrier.


      Lastly but DEFINITELY not least. The way they over-police their discord. They have removed many people included a bunch of talented modders (RockaHorse, The Developer of Goblin King is a good example) over personal beliefs, memes & or anything they dis-agree with that is in the users Discord About Me Section & Or in their Pronouns field. This incredibly dis-respectful as they are trying to police your own discord account over another persons beliefs or feelings. Its Un-Ethical & Tyranical. Instead, They should be encouraging users to block the person that they dis-agree with / do not like. Heres a great example of this.

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      In general. I simply do not care whether you are gay. Or trans. Or whatever else you may be. Myself & Many others within the community simply don't care about who you identify as & what you are. All we care about at the end of the day is if you make cool mods for SPT. Gender ideologies & Gender Politics really have no place here in this community. it doesn't matter who / what you are and how you identify. It matters what you can do if / how you can improve other peoples experiences in any way possible. By either helping them install SPT, Helping them install mods. Or even helping them make a mod. Thats all the focus should be in this community & in this project.


      Side note. For awhile the staff had a weird thing going on with a "boykisser" role to where they would flirt with people. Now while I'd like to agree on its a joke. Staff have an obligation to be professional within the confines of their environment they moderate & manage. Many people have pointed out that it was weird of them to do that. In general it was un-professional & a possible violation to Discord ToS. >>"Do not solicit sexual content from or engage in any sexual conduct ("grooming") with anyone under the age of 18."<<. As there was seemingly no effort made to verify that the users they were flirting with were under the age of 18.



      Overall I want to see this project thrive & keep being successful. But with the repeat negative actions the management keeps taking. As well as the rules in place restricting modders creativity & freedom. I simply cannot support the project anymore.

      The Management of this project needs serious reform / reconstruction. As overall the Management has lost its way & has forgot what SPT is actually about. The developers do amazing work though, Dont ever forget them.💚

      Instead I will be moving over to NexusMods and posting all of my mods & future content there. As well as working on Official SPT integration into Vortex / NMM.

      If there is major reform & change to the Managment & Rules. I will probably come back.

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    • Bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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    • Hi, I'd like to take the time to respond to your feedback about the SPT-AKI server and community. You raise several points and for clarity's sake, it's only fair they're responded to!


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      Don't ask for money for services you provide (i.e. creating / distributing mods, selling in-game roubles) or promote such acts or platforms.


      The purpose of this rule is to avoid complicated legal moderation due to scammers and such. If a person goes through a valid website, such as Ko-fi, Patreon, or Gumroad, the buyer/commissioner is protected and their money is secure. If contracts are formed over our Discord channels, issues can always arise where it falls upon staff to moderate monetary (and thus, much more severe) transactions.


      There has never been an issue with having links to social medias, mentioning modding commissions in bios, etc. I, myself, have done it since the start of my joining in the new AKI discord and had it cleared with moderators. While I understand your point, we want it to go through the proper channels rather than people begging/offering and getting scammed in our server.


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      The file code should be open-source and recent. A link to a publicly accessible repository must be provided.


      Correct. This is what establishes a level of trust between developer and user. The entire SPT-AKI project is open source, and therefore, all modules that extend upon it must respect the open-source nature of the project.


      Correct as well - programs like DNSpy and services can scan for malware, but as we've seen many times, there are false positives as well as false negatives. Having the source code available means the casual user need not worry about the nitty-gritty. It means staff has already vetted it before harm could be done, and those with the know-how can easily verify it without needing to disassemble it.


      This is a rule you've demonstrably broken several times over, the only user that has had any qualms about the ethics of this rule.


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      Content that may be generally construed as provocative, divisive, objectionable, discriminatory, or abusive toward any real-world individual or group, may be subject to moderation. This includes but is not limited to content involving politics, race, religion, gender identity, sexuality, or social class.


      Correct. As you are moving to the Nexus, I presume you are aware of their similar rules. I believe you are also aware of the setting regarding the game, while featuring real-world political implications, there actually are no incentives to discriminate against either mercenary group. It's a story about two PMCs who have both been left in a no man's zone and must survive by any means necessary - the politics of former employers are a gray area.


      I believe you will find most modding websites to have similar rules. While you may not live in an area that is affected by certain social and political issues, others do. The more people feel welcome, the more minds we have working hard at content creation for the project that keeps it alive for all of us. Nobody likes to feel like they're unwanted.


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      Only use English for communicating on the website.


      Again, very simple - we cannot moderate languages we do not understand. While the Chinese SPT community has formed their own website (which we are happily partners with and on good terms), I believe you'll also find this rule in many other servers and websites. If we had enough staff and moderators fluent in other languages, perhaps other channels could be opened up, much like the official Escape From Tarkov discord, but we don't at this time.


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      As there was seemingly no effort made to verify that the users they were flirting with were under the age of 18.


      False, and multiple users so far have been banned for doing such. There is extremely strict no-tolerance for any form of advancement for anyone of either dubious or confirmed-underage users. This is something every one of us takes extremely seriously. We have the logs to prove it.


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      In general. I simply do not care whether you are gay. Or trans. Or whatever else you may be. Myself & Many others within the community simply don't care about who you identify as & what you are.


      I'd like to agree, but reports coming from your own personal community beg to differ.


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      Just a small sample of the 10+ reports we've received asking to ban you for your attitude.

      But we didn't, because so long as someone behaves and is a helpful member of our community within our community, we don't police it.


      That would be being unfair.


      So if that's the kind of community you feel fosters a better work environment for teaching a new generation of modders, you are more than welcome to keep on keepin' on and do what you'd wish.



      Thank you for your dedication to SPT-AKI and your work on making our modding community even stronger! Your video tutorial ages ago on rigging for Unity as well as your SDK are proof positive that you are wonderfully talented and enthusiastic about this project. As someone who enjoyed our chats and talking about modding, I'm genuinely sad to see this is how you'd like to take your leave, but we'll always be here should you wish to rejoin our community.


      Take care. Seriously.

      -Rai

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    • This isn't a train station my guy, you don't need to declare your departure.

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    • Politics:

      You are allowed to upload clothing from any country you would like. You could make a clothing mod with the Russian flag on a patch. That isn't inherently political. What you're not allowed to do is upload a mod that adds patches that directly identify a terrorist group like you intended to do. It should be obvious why this is the case, the staff want the community to be welcoming to people from all over and not alienate anyone who may have been affected by a bad actor group, etc.


      Conduct:

      Being racist or transphobic/ homophobic, etc. is against Discord guidelines. RockaHorse literally linked to an anti-LGBT group in his bio (Gays Against Groomers). You will be hard pressed to find any large community without rules against hate speech or political discussion. That is not abnormal.


      Calling any of this "Tyranical" demonstrates your lack of understanding of how rights work. The managers of the community get to decide what the standards of conduct are that the members will be held to. That is basic rights 101 "no shirt no shoes no service" logic. A community can kick you out for being an ass, their right to do so overrides your right to be an ass.

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    • As a moderator of a discord server and modding group who had to remove you, just go homie. We don't need your clear whinge for the ability to discriminate who you want to, and not be disciplined for it. You want to be political, but think the political content should be moderated, and want to be able to discriminate and abuse everybody else?

      This whole post boils down to "I want to get paid, and I want people to stop hating on me, but I want to hate on others."

      Not to mention this ugly display.

      Enjoy your departure.

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  • i guess he moved to fika since spt mods on nexus is gone now

  • Idk if you will ever read this (as you're banned) but here's my opinion as a outsider.
    If anything, im curious what others think on my opinion on this dumpster fire.

    The way you're so against open source mods is actually worrying. Only logical reason that i can see, except blatantly dousing malware inside your mods, is other users stealing your work and then re - distributing it. That does pose a piracy problem if you want to sell mods, but you can always compromise. Especially since the game is always required to have a internet connection to run. Perhaps licensed mod copies could have their own IDs stored somewhere, and the system checks for that ID once in a while.

    However, my personal opinion on paid mods is negative. As a person that LOVES games with good modding scenes, for me, modding never was about gatekeeping content behind a pay wall.
    Modding is about freedom of expression and community self sustainment. There are other ways to make money. Especially with this talent.

    Now, on politics. No. Tarkov is not, and never was "riddled with politics". Its fully fictional. If you think it is political, you are mistaken, and very wrong. If there's any message that the game, lore, movie are trying to tell you, it's certainly not a negative one. PMCs are humanized (for having to rely on themselves to get out of Tarkov) , governments, higher ups, et cetera, are dehumanized (for leaving the PMCs behind). There is also no narrative that makes one mercenary company look better than the other. Its really simple.

    As of the "terrorist organization mod". My stand on this, is that NO mod on the site should reference the current conflict in Europe whatsoever. In my opinion this is the most, and only humane way to resolve this political view issue. Every person that found themselves directly involved in this conflict, suffered. In one way or another. No matter the side you're on.

    And lastly, one of the takes i actually liked, is the one on religion and wokism. You, despite not supporting LGBT for religious reasons, still decide to tolerate it, yet people still found ways to get offended by this. Like, guys, it ain't that deep. I don't like Islam whatsoever, but you are literally one of the most reasonable Muslims i ever encountered. Bravo:thumbup:

  • Enthusiasm has its limits but Tarkov don't

    so sad to hear that, wish you luck my friend

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  • so based so sigma

    go smash everyone on nexus

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  • My friend, you always talk about being up to date and say that you do not support old versions, but when we ask a question for 3.7.0, you do not answer, we want a tarky menu.

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    • there will not be support for his mods here

    • So where can I reach and ask?

    • He will most likely make a statement

    • I'm not on Discord and can't log in. I hope you can make the announcement here. Is there another place where I can follow it?

  • hey dude When will tarky menu be updated for 3.7.0

    • its on NexusMods

    • Is there a link? How can I find it?

  • Hey SSH_, I love your mods man, I was just wondering about your USEC commander and what his spawn chance and locations are. I noticed that the comments aren't available on the mod itself so that's why I'm here. Sorry to be a bother.

    • He can spawn anywhere. (i.e any bot zone, so multiple sections of each map.) As well as he has a 1% spawn chance. He will spawn with 4 rogues & will be very accurate. Its best to either target his head or legs. Everything else is armoured.

    • Damn, so it's damn near impossible to find him, guess I'll just have to up the spawn chance.

    • If you want. U can open the mod.ts & change the chance.

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  • Hello, I just installed this mod last night and the blood and what not is working but any time a body part is blown off its just a bloody triangle Im not sure what is wrong but any ideas to fix it would help.

  • SSH_ I gotta say some of your reviews are pretty based, if we removed these anime mods (and some that are ported from the chinese version of this site) and all these redundant mods that clutter the workshop we would get the old days back, when it was Kobra and SamSWAT roasting each other about that one leopold red dot.

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    • If people would just simply learn how to make higher quality mods & take the time to learn the craft. There wouldn't be so much slop on the hub. The community can simply just do better. After all I'm always available if people need taught as I host teaching groups as well as show people new ways they can access & interact with the game.

    • when and where lol i'm down

  • Hello I'd really like to download your mods but for some reason I can't access your site from my end, I tried everything from clearing cache for browser/dns and using other browsers. The last thing I would try is a VPN but I wouldn't know which area to use to access the site. I'd REALLY like to try the Third person mod out. I've been pretty much trying everyday to grab it.

    • SSH#6545. I can send u them all in DM's on discord if u having trouble connecting to my webite.

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    • Thank you. :thumbup: Redblur#3684 I added you btw thats my disco

    • Oh, Sorry I didn't accept it because I didnt see u in the SPT discord. Add me back XD

  • Omg this man brought back quick throw grenades (newer tarkov player here, never knew that was a thing anyway) fucking give this man a medal right meow

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  • I guess you weren't lying about adding LMB stuff, keep it up.

  • big man

  • LOVE your stuff man.

    I do only use one feature though, Quick Throw Grenades. I'm an Old player :D

    Still, thank you!