Live Like Experience - SAIN Preset 1.0.7

fought like 4-5 scavs yesterday. think they're in a good balance in between dumb-clever.

Testing some factory with the bots and you got aiming and accuracy pretty good.

scavs still kinda easy at least for me, for some reason its like they can barely hear so when theyre back is turned theyre pretty easy, not sure what is doing that other than hearing.

sometimes pmcs are still running for cover to heal instead of continue shooting, i have this same problem with my preset idk why they do that nor have i found healing settings

gonna keep testing give you some more info

I've also noticed the hearing weirdness, I have a guess about the cause... I think occlusion might not be working as intended (likely just an EFT issue).

First of all thanks for spending so much time tweaking so many parameters to make bots more dynamic, a few issues though, that weren't as present in earlier versions.

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I've played about 8 raids with the newest (v.1.0.5) update, here are my findings:

- Bots, especially Scavs take a long time to engage, they aim without shooting for too long. It feels like I have all the time in the world to get headshots, since I know I have lots of time to get on target. Basically Scavs are much too easy, to the point where it feels like target practice.

- Bots generally will prioritize taking cover when they should shoot back, every raid I've had so far I've just been mowing them down since they turn their back on me and attempt to run to cover when confronted. The Raiders in Labs seemed to be more responsive, but then again cover is very close to bots in Labs most of the time, so that might have an impact.

I think the issue here is especially apparent when they're out in the open, and there's a lot of open areas in Tarkov.

- Bots are almost *too* deaf at this point, they can't hear me running 10 meters behind them.

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The things that do work well are how bots move around more, and that they don't just lazer in on me and swarm my position as if they have wallhack after hearing me 800 meters away. If the combat can be balanced to make bots more reactive in combat, but still maintain hearing randomization, that may perhaps be more in the right direction.

Hmm I wonder if I got something backwards, I'll give it a looksie. Might push out 1.0.6 today anyway, wanted to make more anti-scav swarm tweaks.

Too much in that they're too dumb or too hard? I've been think they're too dumb lately.

Too aggresive, especially when in group, they push you. IF so i believe their scatter should be default, since they shouldnt be too much of a threat, unless it's what you want. to Have Terminator's PMC's and hard scavs. Or maybe it feels like that for me since it fresh lvl 1 account.

i agree, scavs are too aggressive kinda esp if they hear gunshots or spot loot they rush you like crazy. i think a bit more delay for the shot reaction would be helpful. i found it a bit more pleasant because pmcs should kill scavs not the other way.

I do not use that's lit but it should work fine alongside it.

bot settings, then go to pmcs and talking is under the "mind" section

It disables most of the talk but it doesn't disable the talk completely, I don't use the GUI as I host a dedi but I have edited the configs. But thanks anyway. I was just hoping to find a preset that simply deactivates the blablabla without exception. I also loaded SAIN last to make sure nothing is overriding it. I noticed you uploaded your own preset recently, did you deactivate the talk?

unfortunately i did not, i kinda like the talk personally. i could make you non talk version if i can figure out how to get it off completely

There is a non talk version on my github. let me know if it works on my page, i dont wanna clutter shibdib's page

I make most of my changes via out of game editor (just easier for me), but they're all technically accessible via the in game F6 menu.

are you using ai limit mods, those typically make them do that

I'm using the performance mod, but the AI limitation is disabled

Don't use it if you play on Fika.

I don't use Fika.

In the F6 menu, global settings, general, vanilla bot behavior, enable it for whatever bot types you don't want touched.

I think SCAVS simplicity should be a good thing, because whenever you do a task and loot, and then do a killing mission, you will find corpses that are already full of maps, which is not a good thing, SCAVS itself should be inferior to PMC, isn't it, and not in the case of 3V3, PMC even fails, as for the diversity of PMC, I think the character of the SAIN belt should be able to solve, whether this PMC is a hero or a coward. It would be great if we could solve the problem of AI stuck behind the door, and finally, thank you for your efforts

noticing a lot of pmcs mid fight will just turn around and walk or run off. i like scavs in this preset they usually die to pmcs which is what i like personally so theres more pmcs walking around looting. only thing i dont like about the scavs is they are little too dumb when youre right up on them. also right now im finding myself already back to tweaking again because pmcs just dont react fast sometimes, or theyll stop shooting midfight like i mentioned above which im surprised about because i turn off timmy and coward personality. i had only few times they were stuck in doors, dont really know how thats effecting things but i heard its been a problem forever.

Many PMCs will turn around and run away directly during battles, which makes it easy for me to get kills.When I shoot, they will suddenly stop shooting and then turn around and run.

The PMC in the laboratory appears very real, but their aggressiveness is too strong. Whenever there is a battle, the PMC on the entire map will gather towards gunshots.

Sometimes when PMC shoots, I haven't even had time to get to that location before the battle is over.

But even so, I believe this Preset is very good.

I'll look into the pmc's running to cover instead of shooting back issue. I have an idea what it could be.

Doors have always been an issue, it's not specific to this preset. I suppose I can leave it be for now.

I might bump scav accuracy a tiny bit, they're kinda atrocious shots right now if you're moving at all.

Your SAIN isn't up-to-date

Used AI for this response but

MOAR的难度设置会影响机器人生成时的难度等级，而不一定是它们使用的AI设置。SAIN和这个预设可以与之配合使用，没有问题。

MOAR's difficulty settings effect the difficulty tier that bots will spawn at, not necessarily the AI settings they use. SAIN and this preset will work fine with it

Like said in the description, it will auto-use it

its still using my modified preset, unless it doesnt show up in the sain menu at all

You didn't put the file in the right location

You should create a preset first so that you can place the preset

right now the pathway goes SPT>user>mods>SainServermod>Sain>Presets>live like folder. am i supposed to take everything out of the folder

this is a preset for sain...

I normally playing SAIN on i like pain difficulty, would you recommend to scale the difficulty section bars on live like preset to the pain preset settings or does this make the bots difficulty unplayable ?

i tried it and it seems like i cant survive a single raid without getting instant head eyed XD

I didn't play during 3.9 but I believe this has similar goals

Go to the SAIN mod page and install what your missing.

i use MO2 manager and it just put the mod to user\mods

i changed folders to belpinex\plugins