Live Like Pmc Combat - Sain Preset 1.0.3

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Guaranteed to lower your survival rate like live and humble you. Be scared again when a pmc walks around the corner, and upset when they send you back to the lobby to find another salewa.

Decided to make a preset after countless times tweaking in sain across multiple versions. I have no coding experience this is just my tweaking based on so many hours of trial and error and playthroughs of spt (i swear ive spent more time doing this rather than actually playing lol). Ive always wanted the pmcs to feel like real fights and im sure some of you are also looking for that so i wanted to share it and suggestions are welcome :saint: . This is just a test alpha version, still feeling out kinks right now since bsg changes ai a lot. Check out Shibdib's preset, i played for a few days on it and its also a good preset and inspired me to make my own.


NOTICE:

This preset is intended to be used with That's Lit. It effects the bots difficulty, so using this preset without it could lead to terminator pmcs and harder than intended birbgunthreat

a lot of non human advantages the ai gets are hard to combat but this helps a little i feel. I also use starting pmcs on moar for reference.


Summary and what I changed:

A lot of time has mostly went into how CQB feels, so let me know if bots feel unfair at long range like sighting instantly or it feels like the goons (i hate them). Im tweaking cover and bots going prone too much at the moment. I tested raids at low levels and high levels, mostly low. so let me know if it gets harder, this is probably hard to balance since its all ammo and gear based. hopefully bot reaction time keeps the endgame in check.


Only scav and pmcs are changed, my preset every other bot type is vanilla, you can turn this off to have just base sain settings for them or keep it on if you like.

Scavs i tried to make easy but not pushovers. Not much work into them since this is pmc focused.

All difficulties are the same so no variance if you like that, personality is the only variance the bots can have, timmy and coward are disabled since i think they're too easy.


To save some of your guys time and to be clear: this preset is not friendly for those that want pure balance or just want to chill. this is for those that want to try and mimic the feeling of desperately fighting, clinging to your fir salewa with quick decision and aim fights winning the day like in live. You will be head eyes'd sometimes, but you'll feel alive again. Also i don't want the bots to be terminators, but react and kill quick up close like real players would.


At the end of the day a lot of us just want what fits our skill level and how we play so this isn't a fit all preset and was made with my skill level, and ideas effecting tweaking to a certain extent. Take my settings and mess with them yourself until it feels good for you <3 or drop it in sain and forget. If you do offer suggestions and made edits please make sure your observations are still on my default preset.


INSTALLATION:

Drag and drop BepInEx folder into where SPT is installed


That's it

Have fun and don't worry you'll find another salewa if you can make it out alive ^^





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  • Version 1.0.3

    No need to download if these don't concern you no changes were made to settings


    Fixed no talking version, there should be no talking hopefully. i forgot to turn off some sections in personalities.


    updated file structure

  • Version 1.0.2


    Added no talking version for those that dont like their pmcs to voiceline


    scav adjustments to reaction time and accuracy

    Sorry about the arms.


    Turned off prone for pmcs and disabled rat personality

    both i feel make the bots too dumb. you're welcome to turn both back on if you like.


    Various pmc adjustments

    -upped full auto duration to hopefully help with them committing to a kill. let me know.

    -tweaked cover again.

    -upped rate of chad and Gigachad personality


    started tweaking things in the advanced settings.

  • Version 1.0.1

    Upped reaction times and accuracy. head shot chance increased. Thats lit does its job really good ^^ sometimes im still finding it easy. more tweaks to come.

  • Version Alpha 1.0.0

    Test version

  • Nah, bro, this is unplayable with such scavs. I hope u will find a way to fix it. I use looting bot and questing bots. In loting bots I set distance of spotting corpses like 25. And I couldn't even leave Rashala's fort at Customs. Scavs rushed without stopping. Even couldn't heal dismounted limbs ffs

    • lol a day later and the reply. Almost downloaded this as well..

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    • Hey, I got some thoughts about it - it is spt's problem. Other preset did the same with scavs. Seems like 3.10.5 is guilty.

      UPD. I mean I didn't feel this problem before updating spt to the last patch. And anyway you should try this preset. PMCs' part is really tasty :)

  • Hey! Mod is soooooo sweet, thanks a lot! Is there any chance to make these drunk poor scavs be less professional? They r overpowered, but their side can't be such trained and agressive. After 10-15 mins they start to rush me without brakes. It's a bit odd

  • Hey Ams, thanks for the mod!

    I have been testing the preset without That's Lit (for performance reasons) and it's very, VERY, nice. Woods is still unbelievably rough, though.

    The biggest annoyance for me was PMC spotting responses. Everytime they would scream "Scav spotted" or "Bad guy over there" and give away their position. They still happen, but now they are super rare (1/2 out of 10 encounters, which is great). Plus, there are no more "Granada Toh" or "I'm reloading" (these intermediate call outs are basically non-existent - big W right there). You either avoid their Lebron throws or rush them while reloading/healing, in both cases, you gotta use sound cues.

    Potential fix - there are no more dying responses. Everybody who plays this game know how we have to rely on audio to survive. The problem now is that PMC/Scavs don't scream when they die to a grenade. I couldn't care less about bullet wounds (which are non-existent now), but this one kinda sucks. I held a corner for 10min VS Glukhar thinking it was 6vs1 while 3 were already dead just to mention one of the many instances where I was in range. Factory and Labs are especially sad like this.

    Played almost 25 raids (45min on average).

  • Feels good, well done

  • PCM's feels great, but Scavs feels a bit too much. Possible to have default Scavs and only PMC's buffed?

  • I just updated to 3.10, and downloaded this, and after seeing the values... Wouldn't this profile lead to an unhealthy amount of aimbot? With easier presets in 3.9.8, you could see PMCs one tapping multiple enemies in a second in close quarters or PMCs noticing you very easily even with That's Lit in maps like Woods.


    Is SPT 3.10+SAIN that different compared to the previous version? Or is there an option that you changed that would make the "Difficulty" settings makes sense compared to what I experienced with less extreme values?

  • Love this ! can you please fix the file structure so it's compativle with sp-eft manager ?

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    • yeah, how do i need to structure it? just bepinex/plugins/sain/presets?

    • I think so, you can do that, and try etf manager yourself, if not downloading/installing not gonna work.

    • I dont think this is able to work with the manager, changed the structure and tested and it doesnt know where to unzip the files. presumably because this really isnt a mod in the traditional sense. im probably doing it wrong but not sure how the manager works.

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    • No prob. It appears in the manager so I know when you update.

    • disregard, i figured it out. manager is downloading and installing it now, 100% working ^^ 8) straight 0 idea what im doing on github a lot of the time lol

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  • Is it just me or does this preset make so many scavs agro to you after the first like 7 minutes in raid?

    • it might be because of bsg settings. if theres bodies around scavs are tracking to them a lot in this update i heard and then seeing you and aggroing. other than that theres really no settings i can mess with for aggro (that im aware of), the only thing is aggressiveness but thats in an engagement thing whether not they push you and stuff. i have corpse line of sight check and low distance for looting bots but maybe it doesnt help.

    • Ill take some observations of the scavs but i got feeling its that or maybe how moar spawning works if youre using that

    • Yeah using moar and it was particularly bad on the small maps like ground zero. Think most scavs would see bodies and go to them and the more i killed the more would come and just keep coming to the point i got overran every raid lol

    • If ur using looting bots enable line of sight check for bodies in the settings

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    • yeah all i can rec is what agx said, mess with your corpse line of sight check in looting bots and turn distance down, i think mine is on like 25m

  • thanks for the no talk release you mentioned before, i used it in a couple raids and its def quiter, havnt heard "im reloading" so far.

    have you changed anything else in the no talk version or is it the same config from github? (noticed different CRCs but i will test it anyway)

    have you tried PerformanceMode?

    however, I dont speak Russian and therefore dont know what the BEARs say to me, if they do at all.

    ill let you know if I catch any PMCs yapping hummm

    • Same configs, and decided to bundle them together so you get both when you download. I do not have performance on, not sure what itll do to how they find cover, but might test it out. if it delays their actions and nerfs cover too much probably wont mess with it.


      ran few raids and seems like they arent talking anymore, idk if it affected scavs though if you still want them to talk.


      thanks for downloading and trying it out 8)

    • yea. wish there was a way to monitor plugins and mods to find out which configs and mods increase latency and how much.

      i think the performance mode makes sense if you have many alive bots fighting each other.

      if the performance gain is small, not worth it.

      scavs and bosses should always talk imo (pscavs should talk randomly)

      would feel more like live

    • yeah let me know if they talk, i also feel like itd be weird without them talking plus thats like live like you said. youre free to test out performance mode and see what your frames are, i doubt itd help much this game is just bad. also if you on fika thats probably not helping frames either

    • I was walking around with the dev balaclava today and some are completely silent and others are still calling things out. (reload, hit, grenade, etc)

      I double checked the dogtags and looked on the DynamicMap to see where the PMCs are.

      I went back to the personality settings and deactivated everything there, nothing changed.

      I can't explain it. I asked on discord, but was made to look like the biggest idiot.

      Can you check if the PMCs are talking to you when you walk around with devclava?

      I use SAIN, MOAR and FIKA. But I will do a clean install with SAIN only soon.

    • yeah ill go check it out, thats weird though dont see how dev balaclava would do anything.

  • Which Sain preset did you start from ?

    • Default with harder pmcs, then tweaked from there

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  • Could have named it something with a little less overlap :P

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    • I def put more time into the overview than the name :P

  • hope i chill on this,as live like presets sends me to stable often! bugcatheadbumping

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    • mm nice preset! on customs shot 4 scavs and 1 pmc with pistole sent me to stable! but this preset seems balanced ) im 20 lvl bugcatdrunk bugcatrainbow

    • Currently trying to unbalance it a bit, its feeling little easy for me personally. ^^ That's lit really nerfs the bots hard. i put a new version up, feels little harder. I guess alpha can be the balanced version xd

    • bugcatchillin yes make it harder for others,but ill use this version easier!

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