Posts by Fontaine

Quote from Meatydeathstar

Continuing on from the mod thread, forgot support threads even exist. The only feedback I get from getting hit is the grunt, no aim punch, sounds, nothing. I'm going to start from scratch and readd mods one by one. Oddly though, I'm running the exact same set of mods I was prior to updating to 3.7.4. I'll report back with any findings.

EDIT: Nevermind. Figured it out. SPTR is good to go. Turns out Visceral Dismemberment and Bodies causes big issues with bullet and body interactions in 3.7.4. Seems it disabled the physical bullet itself, leading to the game registering damage but not thinking you actually received a hit.

Good to know thanks

Quote from Lifeforce

Hey there!
I love your mod, but it seems like the buy and sell prices of the Scav Box are wrong.

Therapist sells them for ~250k and I can sell them back for ~750k

Christmas makes everything 40% off but doesn't affect sell price. I will release a hotfix to make disabling Christmas in spt config work properly. Right now either disable randomized prices or increase the "randomized price discount" and "randomized price increase values".

Quote from MrBlu1911

We were merely discussing it, to see if it actually was a problem by comparing results. Calling it confirmation bias and acting like we're ignoring other information is pretty inflammatory and not helpful. If multiple people report a certain event happening on a regular basis, SOMETHING is happening. Saying "it's your fault for not paying attention", instead of asking for more details, isn't going to get people to understand let alone enjoy your mod. You didn't even ask for a list of mods that may be conflicting with yours, or if we changed any settings that may have borked the mod. You just assumed your mod is at 100% functionality and that we were wrong.

You can provide answers without being so rude about it.

In a separate incident, I was nearly one-tapped in the chest by a PMC using midgrade or lower ammo and I was wearing what your mod considers upper grade armor. It was face to face at 50m and center mass. A second shot would have killed me, while he tanked 6 before finally dying. I was doing controlled semi-auto fire, with an HK416, using Warmageddon ammo. 50's pen range with 120's damage range.

The experience discussed here is similar to live where we shoot a scav at 100m with midrange quality rifle ammo and he tanks it, while we get a limb blown of by their TOZ using 7mm buckshot. It's that experience that some come here to avoid on some scale with mods, even if only partially. That's why this is so frustrating.

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I don't mean to be inflammatory but I guess frustration came through my post, as Andrew said I've dealt with this topic dozens of times.

Thousands of people have observation bias when it comes to headshots/head-eyes in EFT/SPT in general and I explained how and why it's indeed observation bias and how it applies here too. I guarantee you when the new wipe drops people will be making near identical comments about the armor zones as they are made about Realism's since they'll function essentially identically.

As I've said I've spent dozens of hours testing the armor zones in the past including when complaints were raised about something being wrong with it. What more detail is there to add? I've had people in the past say things like "always get one tapped in the chest" and when I ask them to elaborate it turns out they were exaggerating massively and misunderstand how armor hitzones work. No offence but comments like saying it's unusual for a slug to take off a lot of chest HP despite wearing X class of armor makes it sound like you misunderstand how the armor hitzones work.

I doubt there's any particular mods that will completely break the ballistics or armor, beyond adding new armors that will only have chest protection. I don't have the time to ask everyone who has issues that may or may not be a thing for their mod list to check for incompatibilities.

Like I said I've addressed this topic dozens of times as you can see in the support thread, and I'm taking time out of my day to write this.

"In a separate incident, I was nearly one-tapped in the chest by a PMC using midgrade or lower ammo and I was wearing what your mod considers upper grade armor."

How do armor zones not explain this? This is why I get really frustrated.

"while he tanked 6 before finally dying"

6 shots isn't tanking when you're hitting them in the armor for the majority of those shots.

"The experience discussed here is similar to live where we shoot a scav at 100m with midrange quality rifle ammo and he tanks it"

Then why is this a mod issue, why is it my issue? I've played live since alpha and I can't recall scavs tanking rounds that wasn't desync or me me whiffing shots, or hitting stomach and arms.

I can't take every incident of someone being frustrated about dying in a hardcore game seriously when there are thousands of such comments made while playing live, SPT and Realism. Either you have to carefully consider if it's an issue with your gameplay, or you have to believe that there's something fundamentally bugged with EFT in general at which point it isn't my problem.

Quote from MrBlu1911

Possibly, but still seems weird for it to happen not only so often but to at least 2 people with different mod lists and p[lay styles.

Quote from twistbud

yeah exactly, please let me know if you find a fix to this.

Observation bias. You see people on the EFT subreddit claiming every death is a headshot without taking into account probability or statistics. If you record every death in live with the body part, you may find that the majority of deaths were from headshots. This completely ignores every single shot that was stopped by armor, hit legs, arms and chest that weren't fatal. So in reality headshots are in the minority of shots that hit you. The same observation bias is happening here but for the chest. You're ignoring every time you're hit in the armor, arms, stomach or legs.

Surely this observation "sometimes my armor helps this, but other times it does not" explains it perfectly?

"I've worn (what the mod considers) class 6-7 armor and had 80% of my thorax taken out by a pen20 something slug from a scav." That's completely normal and expected due to armor hit zones.

Armor plates cover a relatively small portion of the body, it's very easy for rounds to not hit any armor at all and 1-2 shot you. There's also a neck hitbox that's basically instant death. There isn't any issue or bug here, it's working as intended.

Bots in PACA armor can't tank 5.45 BP. 5.45 BP does 64 damage, standard bots (PMCs, Scavs) have 120 chest HP. If you hit the bot dead centre in the chest it does double damage so would be an instant kill. If you hit the bot relatively centre it's a 2 shot kill. If you whiff your shots hitting off to the side, stomach or shoulders then you're doing 70% damage, so 3 shot kill in this case. Now consider for a moment if your aim wasn't on point or you hit them in the arms and stomach a few times, it'll probably be closer to a 5 shot kill.

I've never seen bots tank intermediary calibres (5.45, 5.56) in all my testing when the armor they're wearing is of a low rating. I've gone out of my way and spent time in the past testing to make sure there aren't bugs or wrong armor values.

My only suggestion to you is to make sure you understand how armor hitzons work by checking the overview page, and either analyse your gameplay and carefully consider if the that's the cause or just disable all the ballistics changes. But these armor hitzones are coming to EFT proper so you'll have to get used to this.

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SPT Realism Mod 0.14.8

SPT Realism Mod v0.14.8 for SPT AKI 3.7.4

NOT compatible with earlier versions of SPT

Updated to work on 3.7.4.

Fixes:

• Fixed how headsets interact with and affect ambient sfx (wind, rain, birds etc.). Headset gain will now properly affect the loudness of these sfx, and the ambient mutli config option can now be properly used to increase or mute these sfx while wearing headsets.

Tweaks & Minor Changes:

• Tweaked headsets in general. Increased maximum possible gain for headsets (use with caution).

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Fontaine

Dec 8th 2023

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SPT Realism Mod v0.14.8 for SPT AKI 3.7.4

NOT compatible with earlier versions of SPT

Updated to work on 3.7.4.

Fixes:

• Fixed how headsets interact with and affect ambient sfx (wind, rain, birds etc.). Headset gain will now properly affect the loudness of these sfx, and the ambient mutli config option can now be properly used to increase or mute these sfx while wearing headsets.

Tweaks & Minor Changes:

• Tweaked headsets in general. Increased maximum possible gain for headsets (use with caution).
• Buffed 5.45 and 7.62 AK recoil.
• Buffed Benelli, nerfed MP155.
• Made shotguns less deafening.

Known Issues:

• Can hit self with melee in the legs.
• If enabling "Add Keys to PMCs" they will often spawn with multiple keys, and most of the time at least 1. I've tried everything to prevent this.
• SPT/EFT is cursed.

Quote from Chocolate

Status report on the infrequent 90° aim bug thing:

After ~80 hours into versions of this mod after the initial bugfix I haven't had it occur once, which is the longest time without it as far as I can recall. Before the fix it was approximately once per 20 game hours (more frequent when counting only in-raid time but I didn't keep track of that).

Hey man thanks for getting back to me on this! Great to hear, sounds really promising. Hopefully that's the end of the issue

Quote from PupS

3.7.4 clear instal erorr

Did you just not read the part where it says that SPT Realism isn't compatible with your SPT version?

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Fontaine's Recoil Overhaul 2.2.1

Fontaine's Recoil Overhaul v2.2.1 for SPT AKI 3.7.x - HOTFIX

Fixes:

• Attempt at fixing the bug where the player's view gets shifted 90 degrees to the right when firing at seemingly random times.

Fontaine

Dec 4th 2023

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Fontaine's Recoil Overhaul v2.2.1 for SPT AKI 3.7.x - HOTFIX

Fixes:

• Attempt at fixing the bug where the player's view gets shifted 90 degrees to the right when firing at seemingly random times.

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SPT Realism Mod 0.14.7

SPT Realism Mod v0.14.7 for SPT AKI 3.7.3 (NOT 3.7.4)

NOT compatible with earlier versions of SPT

Just a small update to 3.7.3 with some fixes and additional config options.

Fixes:

• Fixed performance issues with displaying weapon stat differences when hovering over or swapping attachments in modding/preset screen. At a minimum the final stat value if swapping attachments will be displayed, optionally it will also display the stat delta as in unmodded EFT for a slight performance cost.
• Improved

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Fontaine

Dec 4th 2023

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SPT Realism Mod v0.14.7 for SPT AKI 3.7.3

NOT compatible with earlier versions of SPT

Just a small update to 3.7.3 with some fixes and additional config options.

Fixes:

• Fixed performance issues with displaying weapon stat differences when hovering over or swapping attachments in modding/preset screen. At a minimum the final stat value if swapping attachments will be displayed, optionally it will also display the stat delta as in unmodded EFT for a slight performance cost.
• Improved weapon stat calculations when swapping weapons, almost fully mitigating the already almost imperceptible frame spike.
• Fixed excessive food items spawning on bots when Looting Bots compatibility is enabled.
• Attempted to fix large amount of keys spawning on PMCs. By default they won't spawn with any keys, if enabled in config they will hopefully spawn with them less frequently and in lesser amounts. There is some SPT bug or change introduced in 3.7.2 or 3.7.3 causing this.
• Reconfigured health testing config options to prevent users accidentally causing heavy bleeding with non-standard control schemes.
• Fixed some maps not being detected correctly.

Tweaks & Minor Changes:

• Added config option for bot loot changes. If disabled bots will spawn with the same loot as they would normally in SPT. Note that loot here means barter items, meds, grenades. They will still spawn with Realism's armor, gear and weapons if bot changes are enabled.
• Made secure container items remain FIR on death. Made fleamarket purchases count as FIR.
• Buffed Rsh-12 damage. It's still less than the Ash-12 due to barrel length.
• Reduced reload speed penalties for most rigs.
• Reduced SMG rearward recoil.
• Buffed MP5 reload speed.
• Buffed default config reload speed multi.
• Reduced active aim stance speed if using PKM/PKP.
• Reduced impact of stamina on reload speed.

Known Issues:

• Can hit self with melee in the legs.
• If enabling "Add Keys to PMCs" they will often spawn with multiple keys, and most of the time at least 1. I've tried everything to prevent this.
• SPT/EFT is cursed.

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Quote from Datochri

if i remove bot changes it works, my version is 3.7.2

You have a lot of mods, the first thing to do before seeking support in these situations is to try Realism by itself, if it runs you have a mod conflict.

Quote from XVPhoenixVII

alright, this is gonna take a while, also for some reason the SPT Launcher doesn't detect my profile mods, which is a bit strange

It sounds like you have issues with SPT itself, you should look for general support in the forums or on the discord.

Quote from Datochri

can anyone help me i cant find any bots in game and i get this error in the console im using sain and swag configured how the mod description said

TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading '5fbe3ffdf8b6a877a729ea82')

TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading '5fbe3ffdf8b6a877a729ea82')

at BotEquipmentFilterService.adjustWeighting (C:\snapshot\project\src\services\BotEquipmentFilterService.ts:356:41)

at BotEquipmentFilterService.filterBotEquipment (C:\snapshot\project\src\services\BotEquipmentFilterService.ts:68:18)

at BotGen.myGenerateBot (D:\SPP\user\mods\SPT-Realism\src\bots\bot_gen.ts:276:44)

at BotGen.myPrepareAndGenerateBots (D:\SPP\user\mods\SPT-Realism\src\bots\bot_gen.ts:251:24)

at BotGenerator.prepareAndGenerateBots (D:\SPP\user\mods\SPT-Realism\src\mod.ts:177:35)

at BotController.generate (C:\snapshot\project\src\controllers\BotController.ts:178:64)

at BotCallbacks.generateBots (C:\snapshot\project\src\callbacks\BotCallbacks.ts:55:61)

at RouteAction.action (C:\snapshot\project\src\routers\static\BotStaticRouter.ts:20:50)

at BotStaticRouter.handleStatic (C:\snapshot\project\src\di\Router.ts:51:61)

at HttpRouter.handleRoute (C:\snapshot\project\src\routers\HttpRouter.ts:72:62)

TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading '5fbe3ffdf8b6a877a729ea82')

TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading '5fbe3ffdf8b6a877a729ea82')

at BotEquipmentFilterService.adjustWeighting (C:\snapshot\project\src\services\BotEquipmentFilterService.ts:356:41)

at BotEquipmentFilterService.filterBotEquipment (C:\snapshot\project\src\services\BotEquipmentFilterService.ts:68:18)

at BotGen.myGenerateBot (D:\SPP\user\mods\SPT-Realism\src\bots\bot_gen.ts:276:44)

at BotGen.myPrepareAndGenerateBots (D:\SPP\user\mods\SPT-Realism\src\bots\bot_gen.ts:251:24)

at BotGenerator.prepareAndGenerateBots (D:\SPP\user\mods\SPT-Realism\src\mod.ts:177:35)

at BotController.generate (C:\snapshot\project\src\controllers\BotController.ts:178:64)

at BotCallbacks.generateBots (C:\snapshot\project\src\callbacks\BotCallbacks.ts:55:61)

at RouteAction.action (C:\snapshot\project\src\routers\static\BotStaticRouter.ts:20:50)

at BotStaticRouter.handleStatic (C:\snapshot\project\src\di\Router.ts:51:61)

at HttpRouter.handleRoute (C:\snapshot\project\src\routers\HttpRouter.ts:72:62)

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If you want support you need to provide details, like what other mods you have installed (the full list, nothing left out), SPT version, Realism version, config options etc.

Quote from KitchenMan

i was just wondering i saw that you had the same issue as me ;

"Issue: The PMC (Bear and Usec) do not have the Found-In-Raid status for items in all slots, The quests still require me to get the items with FiR status,."

and i was wondering does anyone have a solution to this issue , cuz my buttons for FiR in the Realism.config don't work at all i enable them and it doesn't change anything, any new item that i get from the raid don't get the FiR status and the quests still require me to get the items FiR. Please if anyone knows the sollution can you tell me.

Thanks in advance .

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The latest versions of SPT made it so that PMCs do not have FIR items on them to simulate live, I do not know if there's anything I can do about it or if it's a config option

Quote from 3LVN

I knew is was intentional but it's kinda weird to neutered an ultra-expensive item to uselessness. Not to mention that you can't see the laser when using point firing which defeat the purpose of it.

You asked why you can't use it that way as a support question, but you also knew it was intentional? Please leave feedback in the comments as this is for issue/bug support. The appropriate way would be to simply ask "hey can we get a config option to allow the use of sights with thermals?" like Andrew did.

I will add an option for it whenever there's a new version of Realism.

Quote from ShadowSmitty

I COULD HAVE SWORN I downloaded the LATEST version, but I have 0.14.4, the one before the 2 patches lmao. I JUST missed the patches. Let me get updated and test.

Edit 1: I updated and it still does the recoil thing. However, it is indeed a mod conflict or what have you. Is the recoil system based on weight? I have a mod that has a rig to make my weight negative and only after putting it on or in my inventory (thus making my weight negative) does the "Bug" start. Haven't tried to recreate the 90-degree bug yet.

Yes, player weight reduces recoil

Quote from Manny7329

I completely reinstalled SPT and just Installed the Realism mod. I believe it was working fine the first 2 raids I saw no errors. I went into the realismmodconfig.exe so I could revert the med changes. Ran in again it was fine the first raid but a second raid in I got the error again. The first Screenshot is from the mod left as is. Second is from me reverting med changes. Not sure if this helps but all my SPT has is Realism mod I haven't even placed in the Amands graphics yet.

Quote from Mogz

No problem man thanks for looking into it anyway. I'll try a completely fresh install of everything see if that fixes it, if not ill go back to the old version which was working. Love the mod so not gonna play without it.

Quote from tzeapa

i did. don't had/have this problems with Version 0.14.3

Quote from SoupGod

I was in woods when I got the error, I’m lvl 20 and it was day time. Hope that helps

Let me know if the latest hotfix fixed these issues

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SPT Realism Mod 0.14.6

SPT Realism Mod v0.14.6 for SPT AKI 3.7.1 - Hotfix

NOT compatible with earlier versions of SPT


Fixes:

• 2nd attempt at a potential fix for suddenly rotating 90 degrees to the right when shooting. If it happens to you even once please let me know.
• Fixed potential errors with bot generation.
• Moved PMC keys to backpacks to reduce the chance of them spawning with multiple keys.
• Added compatibility checks for Questing Bots + SWAG. Conflicting options will be automatically disabled now.

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Fontaine

Nov 10th 2023

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SPT Realism Mod v0.14.6 for SPT AKI 3.7.1 - Hotfix

NOT compatible with earlier versions of SPT

Fixes:

• 2nd attempt at a potential fix for suddenly rotating 90 degrees to the right when shooting. If it happens to you even once please let me know.
• Fixed potential errors with bot generation.
• Moved PMC keys to backpacks to reduce the chance of them spawning with multiple keys.

Tweaks & Minor Changes:

• Added config option for enabling additional visual recoil effects, and to increase/decrease these effects.
• Added config option to disable parallax + zero shift.

Known Issues:

• Can hit self with melee in the legs.
• SPT/EFT is cursed.

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There will be a new version out soon anyway, which may fix the issues you're having

I literally downloaded it myself and tested it and didn't get any of the logging or that specific error so I don't know what to tell you

Quote from Manny7329

Hi, I get this every other raid or so. It just prevents scav bots from spawning, PMC bots do spawn and some scav bots spawn at later times but not as many as normal. Only mods I have is SAIN with all its requirements and SPT Realism but with med changes reverted. it actually spams that bot and its level like 100 times before it gives the error not sure if that helps. Any help would be appreciated and thank you again for an amazing mod!

Quote from Mogz

Reinstalled the mod this morning. Using the latest version, still getting the error.

The logging where it says the bot name and level should not be appearing on the released build. I downloaded and installed the latest release to confirm that these errors are not happening and that logging is not occurring. Where did you download the builds from? Did you try redownloading and then reinstalling?

Quote from tzeapa

with the latest version i often found that usec pmcs have: only pistols, no gun at all(unarmed), or main gun missing parts(like stock). also they allways have crap ammo

have this errors

almost is turned off. i only use this settings for this mod.

mods and load order

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Those errors are harmless and not to do with the issue you described. Please try the mod by itself before reporting issues.