Featured MOAR - Ultra lite spawn mod 2.6.6

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Ultra lite bot spawning alternative to SWAG/Donuts that works great on servers. Highly recommended to be used with SAIN/QB/LB for an immersive live-like experience. Highly configurable. Built for use with FIKA.

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  • Version 2.6.6

    Small update


    • Updated bosses/rogues/raiders/etc.. to have MOAR run the spawn chance roll instead of spt.
      Basically this preemptively culls bosses that will not spawn (if they lose their roll), and assign those that succeed a 100% spawn rate.
      This may help with load times and mods like ALP in particular, as when the bot isn't in the pool, the game will not run the loadout generation on them!
    • Updated the preset announce to be a bit earlier, after the game is confirmed to load in, but before the player spawns.
    • Updated a few small things in presets.


    That's all for now.


    8) :thumbup:

  • Version 2.6.5

    Major update


    • Updates spawn timing for pmcs
    • Updates marksman spawning method
    • Fixes and rewrites all of the zone related changes.
    • Set pmcOpenZones to ON be default.
    • Fixed bug with hotzones
    • Fixed bug with pmcQuantity not changing properly.

    That's all for now.


    8) :thumbup:

  • Version 2.6.1

    The "Micro-itty-bitty-Labs" Update


    • One last ditch effort to fix the bug with trapped pmcs behind the gates on labs X/


    Let me know it works!


    ?(:thumbup:

  • Version 2.6.0

    Updated Features:

    • Update bossConfig:
      Add other boss types that are possible for custom spawning
      Make console verbose on changes
    • Make minSpawnDistance configurable via mapConfig
    • Make snipers a bit harder, make them spawn sooner

    Bugfixes:

    • Labs spawn zone fix (feedback wanted, I don't play labs)
    • Fix bug preventing custom bosses in bossConfig from being applied
    • Error handling for max escort amount
    • Remove sniper Spawnpoints from minSpawnDistance calculation adjustment


    That's all for now, happy holidays!


    8) :thumbup:

  • Version 2.5.7

    Small update.


    • Sets minimum spawn distance for all spawnpoints on all maps.
    • Randomized PMC spawning.


    That's all for now.


    8) :thumbup:

  • Version 2.5.6

    Sniper Bug fix


    • Fixes sniper spawning.
    • Added maxBotCapOverride option to mapSettings.json config.


    That's all for now


    8) :thumbup:

  • Version 2.5.5

    Feature Update


    • Removed event related changes (should help people getting errors due to christmas event)
    • Moar now handles EscapeTimeLimit changes for those extending their raid times.
      BE WARNED: Moar will limit the maximum escapetimelimit to prevent performance issues.
      For those using longer than 2x escapeTimeLimits, Starting Pmcs will be automatically disabled to prevent performance issues.
    • Zombies can now spawn without halloween event.
    • Updated pmc spawning to be EXACTLY like live values. Now correct pmc quantities are GUARANTEED to spawn.


    That's all for now! 8) :thumbup:

  • Version 2.5.4

    Bug Update


    • Remove old spawning system
    • Bump pmc spawns a bit


    That's all for now.

  • Version 2.5.3

    Bug update


    • Fixed a major bug caused by old presets
    • Added test to check presets (I'm learning I swear), this should tell the user exactly what they have done wrong if they have altered/made custom presets.
    • Fixed issue when disabling bosses everything was disabled


    Thanks for your understanding while I nip all these bugs you guys are helping me find!


    <3 :thumbup:

  • Version 2.5.2

    The "Okay I think it's working now" Update...

    • Fixes a bug with pmcs not spawning.
    • Fixes an error on game start.

      And the additions from last update below!

      Server Rewrite!!

      Sincere thank you to the following testers that helped me out with this one: DICEY, DipDubya, Sully   

    • Added ZOMBIES!
    • Rewrote PMC spawning
    • Added "Starting PMCs" config to bepinex (can be used with random preset)
    • Fixed aggression issues
    • Added LONG REQUESTED bossConfig.json file to control boss spawning on any map (Just add the bots and the percentage in the server config)
    • Rewrote a lot of the descriptions in the bepinex menu (yes the difficulty settings are now clarified, be confused no more!)
    • General other fixery and tweakery took place...


    Hopefully that's all for a bit, sorry for the rocky start folks!


    Have fun! :| :thumbup:

  • Version 2.6.6

    Small update


    • Updated bosses/rogues/raiders/etc.. to have MOAR run the spawn chance roll instead of spt.
      This should fix a number of boss invasion/boss spawning bugs!

      Basically this preemptively culls bosses that will not spawn (if they lose their roll), and assign those that succeed a 100% spawn rate.
      This may help with load times and mods like ALP in particular, as when the bot isn't in the pool, the game will not run the loadout generation on them!

    • Updated the preset announce to be a bit earlier, after the game is confirmed to load in, but before the player spawns.
    • Updated a few small things in presets.


    That's all for now.


    8) :thumbup:

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  • For FAQ's sake, please read, before commenting:

    • I don't understand difficulty something something... ?

      Moar sets the difficulty preset (easy/medium/hard/impossible), sain or spt decides the bots behaviour from there.
      Yes this works fine with SAIN, and is intended to be used with it.
    • I don't understand Bepinex something something!!?

      Hover over the value in the bepinex and read the tooltip.
    • I changed Something something in the bepinex but its not working grrr!?

      >>>>>> Hit "Save" at the bottom of the bepinex <<<<<<
    • FIKA something not saving bepinex something something!?

      For fika, the configuration is saved in memory on the server, the idea being that fika servers should be run on dedicated machines and have long up time.
      If you want your settings to persist through restart and use FIKA, make sure to set those defaults in config.json/presetWeightings
    • Bepinex version is saying XX but I downloaded latest?
      I forgot to update the version for the client mod, if you downloaded latest, this is fine.
      The client mod requires changes rarely, thus I don't always repackage it (updating the version).

    • Something something..server configs broken, I'm no Coder something 不明白 .json :cursing: !%#@?
      If you are attempting to adjust the server configs and are not technically inclined please take a look at this handy tutorial.

    • My CPU is dying with maxBotCap of 25 and/or startingPMCs turned on ANGRY something...! pepescream

      People love the idea of startingPmcs as this is what live is like, what it actually does is forces your potato CPU to spawn (the most cpu intensive operation in spt) all of the pmcs for the entire raid at the same time (or over the first few minutes in the case of Moar), to add to this, all bosses, there followers, rogues, raiders, are already using this period to smash your potato CPU to bits.

      When you spawn all of the pmcs at once, those pmcs will then go forth to murder each other and whatever other bots have spawned on the map (much like live), further heel smashing your already mashed potato cpu into the dirt. :kekw:

      I would suggest leaving startingPmcs off if you don't have a cpu with X3D in the name, or if you do not want the majority of your pmcs to die off in the first 10 minutes of the raid, or if you do not like finding piles of bodies around the map.

      If you still have performance issues:

      An alternative to turning off starting pmcs would be to reduce the maxBotCap, but be aware, pmcs/bosses will blast through that limit, meaning you will have a harder time finding marksman/scavs early game if you do both turn on startingPmcs AND turn down the maxBotCap.

      Thus, I recommend only reducing maxBotCap if startingPmcs is already off, pmcs will still largely spawn in the first 10 - 15 minutes by default.

      One can also set the maxBotCap via the mapConfig.json per map if so desired.

      Extra potato mode:

      Some settings to try if you are still having issues.

      Change these values in your user/mods/Dewar...Moar/config.json to ensure they are always active.

      "pmcWaveDistribution": 0.5,
      (this makes it so pmcs will spawn over the entire period of the map)

      "scavWaveDistribution": 0.3,
      (as bosses spawn at the beginning this pushes those initial scav waves a bit later in the raid to balance cpu load).

      "maxBotCap": 18,
      (lowest recommended 15)

      "maxBotPerZone": 3,
      (lowest recommended 3)

      "pmcMaxGroupSize": 3,
      "scavMaxGroupSize": 3,

      Once you open the game, reset the default settings in the bepinex by clicking "reset to default".
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  • Hi,


    I seem to be having an issue with PMC spawning. Every time I load in a raid with the "Enable bosses" setting turned off, I get 0 PMCs only scavs. This issue presists even with the StartingPMC setting turned ON.


    Tested on a fresh build and latest mod files with this mod being the only one running.

    • You mean disable bosses enabled in the bepinex correct?


      Latest mod files as in 2.6.6??? There was a bug like this 7 versions ago or so.

    • Negative, I mean the raid settings not the bepinex setting.


      I'll try disabling bosses from bepinex menu and test if pmcs spawn or not with this setting turned on. I'll report back.


      Yes. 2.6.6

  • Thanks for the mod. On 2.6.6 only PMCs spawn in Labs, no raiders spawn.

  • Been loving the mod, just one question. Do the smugglers spawn with this? Saw a some things about them with 3.10 but I have yet to find any myself. Currently on a lvl 20 playthrough

    • I just had a wave of them merc me on Customs while using MOAR, so yes, at least with (mostly) default config settings. They are quite rare though; even reviewing my raids I've only seen them that one time.

    • If you know there internal name (maybe skier or something) you can set their spawn chance on whatever map they're on via the mapConfig.

  • For some reason, this mod isn't working on Streets. I used the preset to spawn more PMCs but for some reason, the only bots on the map are sniper scavs. Nothing else is spawning at all...not sure if it's because of some incompatibility with other mods. I don't have any other mods that affect spawn rates.



    Edit: I figured out my problem, I had enabled "PMC open Zones ON" and "PMC/Scav player openZones ON" at the same time so it conflicted. :P

    Would be nice if you could only have one or the other "enabled" so that if you enabled one, the other was greyed out. :)

    • I didn't know they conflicted! This is good to know.


      Will look into this

  • D:\EscapeFromTarkov\SPT_Data\Server\database\locations\tarkovstreets\base


    "MaxBotPerZone": 2,

    "MaxCoopGroup": 8,

    "MaxDistToFreePoint": 250,

    "MaxPlayers": 4,

    "MinDistToExitPoint": 10,

    "MinDistToFreePoint": 90,

    "MinMaxBots": [],

    "MinPlayerLvlAccessKeys": 0,

    "MinPlayers": 3,

    "Name": "Streets of Tarkov",

    "NewSpawn": true,

    "NewSpawnForPlayers": true,

    "NonWaveGroupScenario": {

    "Chance": 50,

    "Enabled": true,

    "MaxToBeGroup": 2,

    "MinToBeGroup": 1

    Hi, more fps on streets, minimum bots

  • I’m not entirely sure, but it seems that if you enable openzones for all bots and remove all hot zones from mapConfig, then FPS will not drop so much, because the main problem is a large concentration of bots in one place. In the tests that I conducted using debugging bots in CWX Mega mod and Dymanic maps, the number of bots in the zone did not exceed 3 in about 3 out of 5 tests, of course, not counting bosses who have followers, they always exceed the limit. Basically the limit was exceeded by 1 and mostly it was scav, I don’t know what this is connected with. if someone reads this in an attempt to improve productivity, try doing what I did above, maybe it will help

    • Correct, openzones add X number of bots to the pool.

      In the case of pmcs the ignore the limit.

      Scav openzones do not ignore limits.

  • hello , who is "peacemaker" and "pmcBot"? or "pmcBot" just is pmcs? thx

  • Hello,


    Scavs/PMCS are not spawning in on ground zero for me. Spawns appear to be fine on every other map. All MOAR settings are on default.


    Mods installed:

    Algorithmic Level Progression

    MOAR

    Entry Point Selector

    shiny airdrop guns

    mroe checkmarks

    item info

    All the clothes

    ammo stats

    looting bots

    SAIN

    server value modifier


    Let me know if there's any other information I can provide to help. Much appreciated.

    • I'm unsure if entry point selector is compatible with my openzones changes.


      Make sure you are on latest Moar and remove a few mods to troubleshoot.

  • Not sure what's happening but I am not getting any spawns on Factory night. Not sure of other maps but I went back to 2.6.1 to test and it worked fine. I think I had the issue with the one before 2.6.6 as well but at the time I was going to be and didn't update till just a little while ago to 2.6.6. I'll test other maps to see if it's an issue anywhere else.

    • I tested Factory day and no bots and I tested Interchange and only a couple of bots spawned but none were moving at all.

    • Strange. I am not seeing spawning issues of any kind.

      I'll investigate, but maybe try turning off openzones settings.


      You may have a mod conflict.

  • its very sad that this mod dont have "spawned only pmcs" like in swag+donuts. anyway thanks for it good work

    • what are you saying?

      You mean like a preset?

      Just make one, it's easy to do.

    • i guess im dumb as bricks, i cant figure out how to do this type of preset. will test it out then better. im just was used to preset from donuts
      (actually found out its "distribution")

    • A preset that sets scavQuantity to 0 is all you need for this. May also increase pmcQuantity.

      You can look at the morePmc preset and adjust if you like.

  • There a way to get Reshala to spawn? Was looking at the config for the bosses and don't see Reshala on there.

  • I am getting pretty bad stutters like others in the comments. I've tried just about everything (deleting preformance mod, changing maxBotCap, changing wave distribution, turning off startingPMCs) and I am still taking some massive stutters and frame drops. I don't think my PC is the issue as I have a 5800x3d and 4070 super, but I could be wrong. Is there anything else I can try or is SPT 3.10 just not very optimized?

    • Does this happen regularly or occasionally?

      I also have frametime drops, but only occasionally and usually only when looting. The client simply stops for 2-3 seconds until it continues normally.

      Usually after 2-3 minutes in the raid.

      But it usually stops towards the middle and end of the raid.

      Never had this problem in 3.9.8.

    • It's pretty regularly all throughout the raid. I would say it happens every 30 seconds to a minute. I'll go from 90-100 frames all the way down to 70 and sometimes even below. It seems to happen when I come in range of the bots. I don't know if it's this mod in particular or just SPT, but it's making it almost unplayable as I've died many times now due to frame drops in gun fights.

    • Not related to this mod in particular.
      Some have seen the "performance" mod help, but it can cause bot spawning issues (or so I've heard) so YMMV.

      In any case, this is already a very bloated comment section, let's keep the comments here mod related.

      On that note, take a look at the potato setting recommendations above and maybe try that.

  • is there a way to choose the amount of pmcs spawned? I wanted a more live like experience without respawn of pmcs , I tried to reduce the number of waves ( 2 for pmcs and 5 for scavs ) but now only appear 2 pcs and 2 or 3 scavs the whole match

    • Quantity, or choose the amount per map in the mapConfig.

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  • Hello,

    why do I have the value "maxBotPerZone": 3 sometimes the number of bots in the zone reaches 8-10, for example in the dormitory at the customs when Reshala spawns there. Is this due to the fact that the dormitory is a hot zone? or is it because the bosses don’t care about the limit of bots in the zone? This really affects on my fps

    • This mainly affects scavs.

    • scavs ignore limits?

    • scavs/marksmans do NOT ignore limits.
      Other bots may, it depends.

  • Really like all the updates you are bringing to this, but something is still not wokring correctly. For example on shorlines I never get bots to spawn in certain areas, like Zone_StartVillage, zone_roadtocustoms, allthough I use all openzones settings and even added them to scavhotzones, also I'm never seeing more than one scav at once, while I put the maximum number per squad to 4.

    Luas Spawn Rework back in the day, had an option to define the number of squads that would spawn immediatly and even set the number of individual bot types to spawn. Would something like that be possible?

  • Hello,

    is there way to tune out scav raids? What i am looking for is to set up how many PMCs will be on raid scav. As of right now there is same amount of them as in PMC raid. I am looking to have something similiar like on live raids.

  • Your committment to improve and develop this mod is absolutely great! Thank you very much!

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  • Not sure if I'm just cursed, but since the 2.6.5 update, PMCs and bosses have started spawning on top of me. Almost literally in one case; 2 seconds between spawn and being shot at (as measured by Raid Review). By sheer luck I survived that, upon which another PMC promptly spawned in front of me and head,eyes'd me instead.


    Below is a list of the mods I think might be interacting to cause this; I have plenty more than this though, and can provide the full list (and/or mod configs) if needed:

    • BossNotifier (I know they just fixed a bug where it notifying you broke boss AI, maybe it was breaking spawning too?)
    • MOAR 2.6.5 (configuration left alone aside from turning "startingPMCs" on; was on my way to report this when you released 2.6.6)
    • EFTAPI
    • Performance Improvements 0.2.2
    • Raid Review
    • SAIN 3.2.1
    • SVM 1.10H4
    • Unity Toolkit 1.0.1


    Reading the comments below, maybe Performance Mod is to blame? I left it on default configuration for everything, if that helps at all.

    • Which map? Starting pmcs?

    • Woods and Customs. though mostly woods (trying to get Jaegers quests out of the way).


      The config options that tries to force PMC spawns to all occur right at the beginning of the raid.


      EDIT: I can send you screenshots of my Raid Review maps with the spawn points relative to my location, if that would help.

    • Turn off startingPmcs

  • Most of the AIs start attacking each other as soon as they spawn, resulting in very few people on the map.If I want to keep the number of AIs on one of the maps fixed at 18, for example, if two AIs die, two new AIs will immediately respawn, ensuring that there are always 18 AIs on the map at all times. How should I set this up?

    • Just turn off startin NPCs and set you macBotCap to 18.


      And read the FAQ above before posting again.

    • Thank you for your response, but I always read all the text you send before asking, including testing it myself.



      I set it to 18, but the AI always spawns less than 18, especially towards the end of the game. If I kill too many AI, there will even be a long period with no AI spawning in the middle.



      Can this mod, like SWAG-Donuts, replenish the AI count to the map limit in a timely manner, regardless of how many AI have been killed?

    • This is a wave mod not swag.

    • OKey~ thank you!

  • I have a problem, PMCs are not spawning, I have the latest version 2.6.6 installed and open zones are disabled. When version 2.6.1 was installed, everything worked fine. Here is a list of installed mods:

    Audio Accessibility Indicator, Waypoint, DynamicMaps, Lootingbots, Lootvalue, Moar, Sain

    • This may be due to base game.

      Second report I've heard on this.

      Are you on SPT 3.10.3?

    • If you roll back to 2.6.1 and it fixes it let me know.

    • SPT 3.10.5. I roll back to 2.6.1 and pmc don't spawning

  • IDK why but all the bots are standing still when I start raid

    I have mods installed :
    FIKA
    SAIN + BIgBrain

    and a LOT of mods from WTT with new guns

    But when I enter the FACTORY (for ex.) all the PMC bots spawn before each other nad just fire into the wall until they run out of ammo and stand still aand only respond when I stand right before their eyes

    • Performance mod?

    • No its not, I tried removing performance and have the same issue.

      Looks like, not 100% sure its related to Main boss roaming preset.

    • Hmm will look

    • I've heard similar issues with base SPT. Unknown cause.


      Will see if others see this.


      One a clean install with only Moar, I haven't seen this.

  • I noticed that when I have BossInvasionSpawnChance set to enabled, (have it set to 40% chance usually) for some reason every single boss spawns. Is this intended to spawn every single boss on the map or is it supposed to roll the chance to spawn each boss individually. If it's coded to spawn them all on the map is it possible to adjust it to have the chance being the chance for each individual boss to spawn and not the chance for every boss all at once?


    I've tried adjusting a lot of the sliders, with different settings, including increasing/decreasing the distribution, quantity, and the invasion spawn chance itself and for whatever reason it's either every single boss comes to the party or maybe only the maps main boss.


    I also have tried restarting both client and server while playing around with the settings, along with trying it on all maps, but same thing occurs, it's either all or nothing.


    Based on the wording of the description which says chance of each invading boss spawning I'm wondering if I've buggered something up. Thanks

    • I'll check, your understanding of how it should work is correct..




      Hmm if you set it to 20 I bet it would spawn half.


      I have a theory

    • Going to push a fix a fix for all boss spawning. This is bugging me.

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    • :thumbup: Cheers

    • Updated

    • Also there is an event on at the moment that causes bosses to spawn.. Turn off events.

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  • The Goons spawn 100% of the time, even though I have their probability set to 30%, and no other mods that affect bot spawning. I've checked the config files, and everything seems as expected. Is this a known bug? Any suggestions?

  • I've noticed that the performance mod is what gives me stutters and dropped fps. As dewardian mentioned, lower the amount of bots on each map in the config.json. That fixed my fps and stutters more than anything else I've tried

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  • This mod makes my game drop frames like no tomorrow, even when i only have "Live Like" preset active. And my SAIN difficulty gets overridden. Dont know what's causing it. allthough i just deactivated "Preformance mod" but didnt unistall it. Dont know if thats the issue here.

    Mods active:

    -SWM

    -Drakia Waypoints

    -Drakia BigBrain

    -SAIN

    -Preformance mod

    -Declutter

    -UnityToolKit

    -Cactuspie Ramcleaner

    -Moar

    • EDIT.

      It also says 2.6.2 at the ingame menu, but the server says 2.6.5

    • -Preformance mod


      Many have had issues running this, no idea why.

      Tweak the maxBot setting in the config.json if you have a slow cpu.
      Do NOT use starting pmcs if you have a slow CPU.

    • My CPU is an Ryzen 9 3900X 12 core. Bought 2020 i think.

      Starting PMCs is disabled.

      Ill uninstall Preformance mod and se if that does anything, and ill give you a headsup.

    • I deleted Preformance mod, and reduced bots from 25 to 13.

      It really helped my fps, dont know if its the mod, or lesser bots.

      But anyway, now my stutters are back, like really bad stutters.

      Every time you kill someone or some bot gets killed on the map, it freezes up, like the main problem people have with SPT 3.10

    • well, unfortunately, that's a thing in eft. I think performance mod is supposed to alleviate that.

  • Any chance you can include "always hostile" settings, so PMC of the same faction and scavs are always hostile? I'm somehow facing an issue with all scavs beeing none agressive.


    Edit: could you please also chekc on shoreline please? Spawning is a bit strange still. Most areas are somehow dead, even on insanity, but as soon as I enter, bots are suddenly spawning.

    • The hostility issues are spt or something else.
      Have had others that updated to latest spt version and seen that.

      Moar only touches pmc aggression, and only does so to ensure that they are aggressive to all.

      As for shoreline, I'm not sure what I'd be checking? Every raid will get a different roll. So maybe try a few.

  • The moar version in my game keeps appearing as 2.6.2 in the F12 menu, in the console it appears 2.6.5, am I doing something wrong?

    • you need to delete the previous version

    • Yes, I have already deleted the old folders, but it still persists. Is there anything else I need to delete that I am missing?

    • The same is happening for me, don't know if it's an issue.

      I also deleted the previous version.

    • So, I just wanted to know if it was a spelling mistake, or if the mod is not "up to date" 🤷🤔

    • It's not. I forgot to update the bepinex version. (the client receives small updates, the server is where all the logic is so it's fine).

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  • Hello! I had a question if anyone could help. I download this mod in hopes of farming bosses for quests. I have the mod setting set to default and I have enabled bosses with their chance of spawning set to 100%. I also enable bosses and don't touch the AI amount of AI difficulty however None ever spawn at any map. thanks for any help! :)