SPT Realism Mod

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Everything else seems to work fine except when I fire the glock18 on full auto it empties a 50 rounder in half a second. I read online and some 10 month old posts said to remove the realism mod but I cant deal with vanilla tarkovs recoil system its heinous.

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My game crashes when trying to drop into Custom as a PMC. Countdown gets to 1 sec.

Error Message I get on the server:

Realism Mod: Failed To Find Custom Preset For Bot marksman At Tier 1

Weapon 5ae08f0a5acfc408fb1398a1 was generated incorrectly, falling back to weapon preset see error above

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That error doesn't prevent you from spawning, it's doing exactly what it says: falling back to a default weapon preset. You have a mod conflict you're using the wrong version of Realism/SPT

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Heya, Fontaine. Figured I'd hit you up here so as to not clog up the comments or bother you on Discord, haha. Feel free to respond or not!

Just noticed you added D.R.I.P. to the incompatibilities section, and was wondering if it completely breaks bot gen, or just won't gen with drippy clothes? Don't mind them not having clothes, but don't wanna break your excellent bot loadouts!

It seems to depend on load order. For some bizarre reason DRIP modifies bot generation by overriding server methods, which Realism's bot progression relies on. So if DRIP is last in load order I think it will break bot progression, if Realism is last I *think* worst case bots won't have DRIP's gear.

Fontaine added a new version:

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SPT Realism Mod 0.12.0

SPT Realism Mod v0.12.0 for SPT AKI 3.6.1: Bayonets + Rifle Melee, Parallax + Zero Shift, & Armor Improvements

NOT compatible with earlier versions of SPT

Added bayonet attachments and added the ability to strike bots and objects with the muzzle of your rifle with a dedicated keybind.


This video is from an older WIP version and does not have the dedicated melee animation, but it gets the point across.
youtube.com/watch?v=Sxf_AEs0gbA

Big thanks to Tron for creating the bayonet bundles and getting…

Fontaine

Oct 5th 2023

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SPT Realism Mod v0.12.0 for SPT AKI 3.6.1: Bayonets + Rifle Melee, Parallax + Zero Shift, & Armor Improvements

NOT compatible with earlier versions of SPT

Added bayonet attachments and added the ability to strike bots and objects with the muzzle of your rifle with a dedicated keybind.

This video is from an older WIP version and does not have the dedicated melee animation, but it gets the point across.

Big thanks to Tron for creating the bayonet bundles and getting them into the game.

Fixes:

• Fixed pistol recoil climb multi config option not working, resulting in pistols having too high recoil climb.
• Fixed S pattern dispersion not being calculated correctly which meant dispersion stat wasn't making much of a difference and S pattern on some guns were too subtle.
• Fixed error in hit detection where right side hits offered less protection from side plates than it should have.
• Fixed arm stamina drain not taking weight into consideration properly, resulting in light weapons having similar drain to heavy weapons.
• Fixed late-game boss spawn chance being lower than it should be.

Significant Changes & New Features:

• Weapon Melee System: the player can strike with the rifle's muzzle, or bayonet, with a new keybind. This will do damage to bots, glass and lights. Some muzzle attachments increase melee damage, you can see the stat in the inspect menu.

There are three new bayonet attachments: Mosin bayonet, 6Kh4 AKM/AK74 bayonet and M9 bayonet for M4A1.

Bayonets act as attachments only due to technical limitations, They cannot be equipped as melee weapons. This may be improved on in future. The M9 and AK bayonet have to be attached to the gasblock, as this was the only way to get them working without resorting to modifying the muzzle brake/flash hider bundles which would make their muzzle flash look different.

Melee with the weapon muzzle acts the same as melee with knives: it drains stamina and uses the melee skill. In addition, weapon weight and ergo affects the muzzle strike's damage and penetration.

NOTE: parallax and zero shift is massively exaggerated for this video!

• Parallax and Zero Shift: red dot sights and optics now have parallax simulation. When the player moves their weapon while aiming, the dot will move in the opposite direction to simulate parallax. The amount of parallax corresponds to the sight's accuracy stat. Sights with a negative accuracy stat can now also lose zero. The reticle/dot will have a chance to move away from where the bullet will impact. This chance and the amount of shift is based on the weapon's recoil and the sight's accuracy stat. Changing the sights zeroing distance will fix the loss of zero.
  
• Secondary Armor: a new secondary armor zone has been added. Some armors will have this zone, listed in the inspect screen. These armors have increased area of secondary protection but generally of a lesser armor value. This zone represents the ballistic fabric that covers and contains the main armor plates that some armors have.
  

A lot more of the front and back of the wearer is protected by this secondary armor, as well as the shouledrs. If the armor does not have side plates but has secondary armor, it will protect the sides with this lesser armor value.

This is a significant buff to armor's like Module, PACA and 6B2 as they gain increased coverage of the same armor value as the main armor. Armor's like the 6B13, 6B23, IOTV etc. will have this secondary protection equivalent to level 3-5 armor.

In general this is a buff to most armors against shotgun and pistol rounds.

Tweaks & Minor Changes:

• Bracing now regenerated stamina instead of just pausing arm stamina loss, but not as fast as mounting.
• Various tweaks to attachment and weapon stats, fixes for some weapon's recoil like Vectors.
• Minor improvements to stance animations.
• Increased ADS speed globally.
• Added stats for all 13.5 content (armor, attachments, rigs).
• Toned down Factory spawn waves.
• Increased variety for USEC tier 4 M4 and M14.
• Reduced the chance that PMCs spawn without a helmet at higher tiers due to conflicts with headset or mask.
• Added another bracket for PMC tier odds to config.
• Made attachment "flatness" stat affect the displayed weapon vertical recoil so it's easier to understand what it's doing.
• Increased sway reduction from bracing and mounting.

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Back again!

Is there a way to keep all other updates, but *only* remove the new recoil changes? I preferred the previous version's method, but don't want to miss out on the other updates included in the mod. I simply do not like the new recoil system, I didn't have a problem with the older recoil style, as i could tweak it in a very realistic pattern for all calibers and personally have never struggled with Iron sights being accurate enough at most ranges one would use them

I've played enough COD or CSGO type games that I just don't want to do the 'pull down pattern' crap in yet another game, my character handling most of the recoil was enjoyable, only slightly needing to slightly compensate here and there. I'm messing around, but haven't quite figured out how to revert JUST the recoil to handle more like the last version. I do want to keep the attachment overhauls as they made the weapons far more fun to use in variety of styles but the recoil pattern change is just too much for my taste.

Is my only option to revert to the previous version of the mod for the foreseeable future? or would it be possible to have a selection of Legacy (Live tarkov style), Old Realism, and S pattern as options?

Nope. Previous recoil system also had "pull mouse down to control", the recoil didn't auto-compensate, that was the whole point of the first recoil overhaul.

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Hey Fontaine,

Do you have a thread that has screenshots on updating the bots/pmcs weapon presets? I tried going into SPT-AKI-Versions\user\mods\SPT-Realism-Mod\db folder and found the .json files and tried modifying the Item IDs and so on via notepad++ . However, cannot get them to work, I even removed all other assets within the weapon presets for sptbearpresets.json and others and only made 1 weapon loadout and the bot did not spawn with my preset.

The Bots will still spawn with the old weapon presets.

I tried following this guide: Realism Mod: Creating & Installing Presets, Making New Weapons, Gear & Attachments Compatible. - AKI Mods Workshop (sp-tarkov.com) But I still can't get these bots to come with the weapon presets I assigned. Any help is appreciated.

Additionally, yes, using updated v0.11.2 SPT for v3.6.1 and also saved the files and reloaded the server after changes.

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That guide isn't to do with bots. It's not intended for users to add or modify weapon presets or the loadout files. It can be done if you know what you're doing but I don't have time to help with that unfortunately.

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but it at least had an option to toggle the vertical recoil change off at least, and modify how much the gun moved per shot, and if the recoil grew over time or stayed consistent. i distinctly remember after adjusting everything, disabling vertical climb on ADS and hipfire, that i was able to aim, fire at a target without needing to move my mouse at all and staying mostly on target, besides wahtever base recoil the gun had based on stats. . that's what i'd like back, it was glorious. I'm certain i'm not the only person who disabled recoil climb in favor of Live style auto compensation, because it was more realistic and immersive.

So you disabled the previous recoil entirely and now you're bothering me to let you go back to not having any recoil and claiming that's somehow more realistic? There's dozens of config options for recoil that let you disable recoil climb, did you even try any of them?

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I apologize for the intrusiveness, it's really useless to edit notebooks of weapon presets from bots, although it works for changing clothes and bulletproof vests. If you have time, can you please add at least one preset of sr-25, Mk-17, Mk-47, Rsass weapons to the high-ranking usec 3 and 4? Or at least some of these samples.

Alternatively, you can copy at least one assembly from the bosses. As far as I know, they use this equipment. I tried to do it myself, but I don't know. how to implement it. I would be very grateful to you, it seems to me that mercenaries could well use these weapons samples for their tasks in real life.

USEC already have the SR-25, but I plan on adding more variety to PMCs later on with 3.7.0 or a bit later

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i'll mess around some more after I update again, i downloaded and installed the last version literally 20 minutes before you uploaded the bayonet update and was trying to figure out the new UI and get back my old stable recoil.

worst case, i guess i downgrade the mod till something changes in the mod setup seperating recoil from attachment overhauls, i liked being able to hit a man-sized target with 80%+ accuracy at 50m full auto with most calibers and I hope i can figure it out to be that way again.

I think it would be too much work to break down Realism into enough parts so people can selectively change things.
I love the health overhaul.
I love the bot progressive changes
I absolutely adore forcing bosses to have PMC health values and not be some PCP roided out monstrosity that takes 3 mags to kill.
I'm in a love/hate with the flea changes, it fuels my inner hoarder but stifles my ability to progress certain elements of the game equally.
I love the way attachments were made nearly irrelevant to weapon performance, this is the single biggest part I want to keep.

I've just had enough with the ridiculous theory that guns climb to the sky when firing. and I believe also for many people who struggle with mouse handling in games, a game that you just put the sight in place and fire, and it doesn't run away into the sky is a big deal, and a good thing to have available for them.

I see it regularly posted, people coping with disabilities and more, so they look for ways to mitigate recoil to be as least challenging as possible, they have a hard enough time just pointing in the right direction, let alone controlling violent recoil patterns. your mod gives them the ability to overcome that, and i think you should be proud of that, they have every right to enjoy the game as well, even though they are physically incapable of 360 no scoping like the rest of us.

I don't *need* a low-recoil game. I just *want* to make the recoil feel more like a real weapon at my shoulder, not a 'game mechanic that requires skill' and fighting some magic string tugging on my muzzle into the sky

TLDR, I'll dig deeper with the settings and see what happens. I do appreciate the customization and love the mod as a whole, but equally I do hope you might add more clear ways for users to understand what has effects, how. potentially as far as a simple 'on/off' toggle for some elements though I do understand much of that is limited due to it being tied together with other elements of the game.

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Hitting a "a man-sized target with 80%+ accuracy at 50m full auto" isn't realistic, expecting to be able to do that with 0 mouse control is ridiculous. Attachments are only irrelevant because you made weapons have 0 recoil. I put a huge amount of time into making attachments interesting and useful.

Alluding to hypothetical people with disabilities or alleged posts by them in order to guilt trip me into doing what you want is kinda gross. Regardless of even that, there's a config you haven't even bothered to look at and tweak before taking up my limited free time. The config has tool tips and is braindead simple, there's literally one called "recoil climb multi".