Nooky's Custom Spawns for BetterSpawnsPlus 1.3.0

yup that's it.

When you mention "outside of the normal spawn areas" I'll assume this means "outside in-game spawn zones"

Unfortunately, modders are limited to spawn zones in each map (see below for Reserve). I mentioned D2 since this is in the "ZoneSubCommand" (basement area) and is really the only zone anywhere near D2.

To answer your question - is there a way to do so? The short answer is no. The long answer is - it's possible, but not right now. That would require Unity NavMesh and that's way beyond my programming knowledge, but I wouldn't be surprised if our modding community was already hard at work on it.

I had a feeling it wasn't possible or I prob would have run into it while scouring the site for mods Given the recent surge in interest for SPT hopefully some new community members will bring some new skills to add to all the awesome work the AKI devs and you modders have done! For the time being I've just set a rule for myself to balance the "free uncontested loot" areas that I have to cross a hot zone to exfil with it xD

Thanks for the detailed response! Cheers

You can use this and this to add spawnpoints. It works both for 3.5 because it only adds spawnpoints to the map.

@IIDeathII you rock thank you! Gonna give it a try, sounds promising enough and those extra spawns look to saturate the empty areas pretty well

What other spawn/AI mods are you using? Woods is a notoriously large area map with unfortunately small spawn zones, BSP with these spawns can probably hit 15-20 bots on Woods in 15 mins. but still feel empty. Even in my testing with 30 bots there are pockets of emptiness. I know it’s not the greatest but these are the limitations of that map to be honest.

There’s a reason why spawn location parity is excellent in Streets, for example. It has the best zone parity by far of any map.

No other mods for spawning / AI used.

The problem with large maps such as woods (especially for quests) is that it's near impossible find bots in the actual woods, so you instinctively head for the hot spots like the camp or the big sawmill. But every time I ran there was just wind whistling.

I don't know if it's possible to manually set out custom spawn points with BetterSpawnsPlus (with a config mod like this one), but one of the biggest problems in SPT is that hot spots aren't hot spots. Dorms on Customs is usually dead, and any POI is empty whenever you go to it.

My hope has always been that there'd be a mod that fixed that or at least congregated spawns or pathing towards POI.

Yes - in fact in the next update (1.3.1) I have raiders spawning in near D2 at the start of the raid every time for consistency.

Try turning off all the “experimental” options in your BSP config

Which ones are those

    "experimental": {
            "randomCultistEncounters": {
                "enabled": true,
                "chance": 5,
                "botAmount": "1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3"
            },
            "randomRaiderEncounters": {
                "enabled": true,
                "chance": 5,
                "botAmount": "1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3"
            },
            "randomRogueEncounters": {
                "enabled": true,
                "chance": 5,
                "botAmount": "1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3"
            }
        }

these, you want these to be set to `false` - you may have been running into random raiders/rogues/cultists in your raids.

Hey ODT, thanks for the tip! What settings do you use in Realism?

https://pastebin.com/zGYUbxfT + I have a few custom patches - 3.5.1 bot patch; bot tiers progression based on traders, instead of pmc level; disable ergo changes to bsg values for attachments and add descriptions to every locale patch

Ah, and a few changes directly to items, like removing hor/vert recoil changes for AK stock adapters (wut) and mosin muzzle breaks accuracy changes (wut x2)

Hello! What is 3.5.1 bot patch? Is it for realism mod, right? Where do I find it?

It's not public, it's custom built for custom built server.

My mod only changes spawn files that BSP has, it has no effect on levels or similar. It's possible that your BSP config. or other mods might be causing issues but I can't say for sure.

if it works w/ BSP then it should, I don't think Immersive Raids affects spawns but I'm not 100% sure.

I had this issue too. I just was able to get Shturman to spawn in woods. I also have bosses disabled at the initial setting screen. However, once you click on game setting the bosses are enabled. At this point press "next" then "start". Try it out. Good luck!

doesn't seem to have done anything so ig i just cant play with the mod lmao

Preset doesn't matter - Woods is a weird map with spawns, in my testing things have been pretty empty/quiet early on regardless of timing adjustments and added spawns. My personal suggestion is play around with the new BSP extension and see if it helps with spawns on Woods: MOAR Config options for BetterSpawnsPlus

Regardless I'm still tuning Woods, there are definitely some improvements needed. Thanks for the feedback!

update on this - I'm finding that Woods is indeed a bit slow in the early game, I'll be playing around with adding spawns and there will likely be a Woods update in 1.3.1.

My spawns are tuned with 45-60 min. raids in mind but you shouldn't have any issues with shorter or longer raids but ymmv. With that being said, feel free to try the new BSP mod extension on the hub, with it you can use my spawns as a baseline and tweak them with this: MOAR Config options for BetterSpawnsPlus

It’s just part of the source code, you can safely ignore it.

The rule of thumb if it’s compatible with BSP then it’s compatible with my spawns.

With that being said, BSP should work with any mods that do not affect spawns.

In Realism’s case, you may have to tweak some bot settings and test. Me personally, I use Realism but I only use the bot loadout progression feature, I’ve never had mod conflicts. Hope this helps!

I use Fontaine's realism mod with this and logs indicate no issues I can see. Just make sure to open SPT Realism config app and under the bot tab uncheck increased bot cap, open zone fix, and spawn tweaks. Good luck.

Do you have PMC voices turned on?

Those are the goons

Yeah, You ran into Goons.

Changing anything to false within mod config would result in default game configuration, so if you wish to play without bosses you need to uncheck boss spawns within the raid settings before launching into a raid, or go into your .json files and change whether or not bosses are allowed to spawn. (i.e. changing boss chance to 0 per boss per map would be a perm fix)

My first suggestion is try to get him to spawn without my spawns (BSP defaults). If that still doesn’t work I’d get in touch with PreyToLive on BSP’s mod page. I have personally not tested Sanitar myself but I will try to now, thanks for the feedback.

hey, sorry about the confusion - first off, you can ignore any "MACOSX" folders, that's my mistake for including that. the versions 1.2.0+ should leave that crap out.

what you need to do is copy everything in this folder:

custom-spawns-bsp-spt/locatons/

and paste it into your BSP mod folder:
PreyToLive-BetterSpawnsPlus/db/locations/

and overrwrite those files.

or you can copy and paste individual maps if you'd like.

hope this helps!

I’ve only personally tested my spawns with “As-Online” amount. I can’t say what affect changing that may have, it could also depend on other mods, so ymmv in that case.

if you change the AI amount in the pre-raid screen, it will negate any spawn mods that you have.

Yes - you are free to change the timings for any spawns, take a look at the included READMEs for more info on how to create/adjust spawns to your liking.

With that being said, both my spawns and BSP defaults are designed for 30-45 min. raids already but there's always room for improvement!

Appreciate the feedback - I have Shoreline spawn tuning planned for 1.2.0, it's likely I have a bit too many PMC spawns early on and they may be killing SCAVs before you see them. I'll make some adjustments and test them out.

I'm also making some tweaks in the config right now and testing how it works out, probably the high %chance of pmcs spawning in most zones is the cause.

Also Sanitar is just an absolute unit with his guards trying to snipe me from 300+ meters with reflex sights but that's just tarkov being tarkov

Thanks for the feedback - good question, afaik adjusting in-game AI amount settings shouldn't have any affect but I'm not 100% sure, that may be better question for PreyToLive (BSP's mod creator).

that’s correct, you can replace all map files or individual ones, up to you

It’s likely due to my spawns - do you remember about how long into the raid you extracted? I can space out the PMC spawns a bit more in those zones, they might be killing SCAVs before you get to them. Thanks for the feedback!

edit: I’ll tweak these spawns in particular for the next version.

in all of the raids I was there for around 10-15 mins I guess, probably closer to 10. I just kinda wish we had an option to rack up the spawns even further. on spt 3.4 I used to get 30-40 kill raids now doesn't matter which mod I use I seem to be stuck at around 15 or so kills in about the same time spent

If you'd like, you can change them to spawn immediately at the start of the raid by going to

PreyToLive-BetterSpawnsPlus\db\locations\lighthouse/botSpawns

and changing any exUsec spawn times to -1

I actually don't currently have a custom Lighthouse config - that will be in the next major version. So what you're using is the default BSP Lighthouse config.

Good question - unfortunately no, all of my spawn configs were designed with 60 min. raids maximum, as none of the spawns are configured to spawn after 60 mins.

However... if you're feeling adventurous, you can simply add more spawns to the configs to stretch them out over longer raids, though I've never tested spawns after 60 mins. If you do, let me know, I'd like to know!

Good to know! Thank you.

I will see if I can mess about with it this weekend and get back to you