Featured MOAR + Bagels - Ultra lite spawn mod 3.0.1-Experimental

MOAR + Bagels - 3.0.1 Experimental

Experimental Update

• Added performance improvements option to the "advancedConfig"
  This does a number of things to reduce unused AI and improve general performance on the worst maps for it.
  It turns down zyrachis chance of spawning, reduces the guard max bot counts for bosses (increases min slightly to compensate), reduces rogue spawn chance across the board.
  Turn off to make lighthouse spawn more rogues/zyrachi and have streets reduce it's fps back to an unplayable level.
  OR
  add the following line to the bossConfig to increase the chance of rogue spawning on lighthouse if that is what you are after.

    "lighthouse": {

      "exUsec": 45,

• Major update to Pmc aggression and the introduction of faction based pmc aggression
  (pmcs will work with and be friendly to their own faction if this is turned on) don't worry, all pmcs still have a strong desire to murder you.
  This solved a long running bug that was causing performance issues, where pmcs that spawned together would murder each-other.
  Now we have much less shooting in the beginning of raids, and with SAIN, watchout, as teams will use tactics functionally again!
  Read the tooltip in the bepinex for more information.
• StartingPMC logic updated
  Be aware, you can now no longer use the cascade system with startingPmcs.
  If you want to use both the cascade system and startingPmcs the closest you can do is reduce pmc distribution to the 0.1.
• The 100% Partizan bug, and a few bugs around bosses have been fixed!
  Partizans karma logic is now removed, his spawn percent is all that determines his spawn chance now.

Spawn updates:

• Vanilla player spawns have returned!
  Players now have a few custom spawns and all the original spawns
• PMC/SCAV spawns are now separated!
• PMCS now have 100+ spawns they can use per map.
• Moved all spawns to the config/Spawns folder, you can view your added points in there.
• There are now button bindings to add/remove custom spawns of each type to the bepinex advanced section.
  NOTE: You may tempted to add a ton of spawnpoint; my strong recommendation, is there is kind of an art to spawn placement.
  I'd suggest placing far less than you think you need. Keep an eye on the associated file in: config/Spawns folder to watch your spawnpoint changes.
  MOAR culls spawpoints within a certain distance of eachother, so adding a ton in a certain area won't necessarily result in the behaviour you think it will.
  Also avoid placing spawn-points in areas that a regular bot wouldn't be able to walk to, it can make the bot potato on spawn. (think tops of rocks, inside locked doors).
  After adding spawns, it is advised to run the culling algorithm on your spawns via the advanced config, simply turn on "ActivateSpawnCullingOnServerStart" and run the server once. Then turn it off, and you're good to go.
  This process removes unneeded duplicates and processing.
  It is my hope that the community will begin to create packs that they can share of their custom spawn-points, which I will then parse and start incorporating in builds.

FIKA PLAYERS

• Many fixes have been attempted to fix the spawning apart bug, this is known, and this version has seen improvements there.
  For now, I have gone with a solution that should have players either spawning together, or near to each-other (50 meters).
  If you see this bug, know it's being worked on, and top of mind form me. Do feel free to report it in the Discord > Fika > DewardianDev mods chat.
  Logs/map/location do help track down issues.

Bugs to watch out for:

• If you spawn without exfils and you are on a clean install of this version of MOAR, REPORT IT.

Requirements as of 3.0.0

• Waypoints is now required!
• The MOAR.dll is now required (both on clients and dedicated).
  Up until now MOAR has been a server-side only mod, as of the previous release, the .dll is required.
• Now more than ever, SAIN and Questing bots/Looting bots are highly recommended to get bots moving.
  
  

That's all for now!

For FAQ's sake, please read, before commenting:

• I don't understand difficulty something something... ?
  
  Moar sets the difficulty preset (easy/medium/hard/impossible), sain or spt decides the bots behaviour from there.
  Yes this works fine with SAIN, and is intended to be used with it.
  
• I changed pre-raid settings something something... ?
  
  Don't! Moar has it's own controls to disable bosses or handle difficulty. If you use the pre-raid menu, do not post about your broken game here.
• I don't understand Bepinex something something!!?
  
  Hover over the value in the bepinex and read the tooltip.
• I changed Something something in the bepinex but its not working grrr!?
  
  >>>>>> Hit "Save" at the bottom of the bepinex <<<<<<
• FIKA something not saving bepinex something something!?
  
  For fika, the configuration is saved in memory on the server, the idea being that fika servers should be run on dedicated machines and have long up time.
  If you want your settings to persist through restart and use FIKA, make sure to set those defaults in config.json/presetWeightings
  

• Bepinex version is saying XX but I downloaded latest?
  I forgot to update the version for the client mod, if you downloaded latest, this is fine.
  The client mod requires changes rarely, thus I don't always repackage it (updating the version).
  
  
• Something something..server configs broken, I'm no Coder something 不明白 .json !%#@?
  If you are attempting to adjust the server configs and are not technically inclined please take a look at this handy tutorial.

• My CPU is dying with maxBotCap of 25 and/or startingPMCs turned on ANGRY something...!
  
  People love the idea of startingPmcs as this is what live is like, what it actually does is forces your potato CPU to spawn (the most cpu intensive operation in spt) all of the pmcs for the entire raid at the same time (or over the first few minutes in the case of Moar), to add to this, all bosses, there followers, rogues, raiders, are already using this period to smash your potato CPU to bits.
  
  When you spawn all of the pmcs at once, those pmcs will then go forth to murder each other and whatever other bots have spawned on the map (much like live), further heel smashing your already mashed potato cpu into the dirt.
  
  I would suggest leaving startingPmcs off if you don't have a cpu with X3D in the name, or if you do not want the majority of your pmcs to die off in the first 10 minutes of the raid, or if you do not like finding piles of bodies around the map.
  
  If you still have performance issues:
  
  An alternative to turning off starting pmcs would be to reduce the maxBotCap, but be aware, pmcs/bosses will blast through that limit, meaning you will have a harder time finding marksman/scavs early game if you do both turn on startingPmcs AND turn down the maxBotCap.
  
  Thus, I recommend only reducing maxBotCap if startingPmcs is already off, pmcs will still largely spawn in the first 10 - 15 minutes by default.
  
  One can also set the maxBotCap via the mapConfig.json per map if so desired.
  
  Extra potato mode:
  
  Some settings to try if you are still having issues.
  
  Change these values in your user/mods/Dewar...Moar/config.json to ensure they are always active.
  
  "pmcWaveDistribution": 0.5,
  (this makes it so pmcs will spawn over the entire period of the map)
  
  "scavWaveDistribution": 0.3,
  (as bosses spawn at the beginning this pushes those initial scav waves a bit later in the raid to balance cpu load).
  
  "maxBotCap": 18,
  (lowest recommended 15)
  
  "maxBotPerZone": 3,
  (lowest recommended 3)
  
  "pmcMaxGroupSize": 3,
  "scavMaxGroupSize": 3,
  
  Once you open the game, reset the default settings in the bepinex by clicking "reset to default".

So not entirely sure what's causing this issue but ever since i installed this along side Entry point selector 2.0 it spawns me wherever basically make Entry point redundant. any assistance is appreciated and if you need logs or anything lmk tyia

No PMCs or Scavs spawn when I use this mod. I disabled all the bot tweaks in Realism but still nothing.

I'm the administrator of a FIKA server that I use privately. I've encountered some issues when modifying the mod presets. Anyone can upload custom presets to the server. As a result, once a user changes a preset, all other users will be forced to change theirs accordingly. This has led some people to maliciously modify certain presets. I really hope there's a way to solve this problem, like restricting users from uploading custom presets to the server and so on.

I'm really trying to get this mod working, but the performance is just constantly garbage, and I need some input. As soon as ANYTHING happens during a raid I get massive fps drops followed by a lot of stuttering. This means that MOST of my raid is subject to stuttering. I'll lose around 40% of my FPS over the course of the first 5 minutes of a raid when a lot of the spawning is taking place. These two issues combined make the game hard to play. If I am getting close to the end of a long raid, I will have lost another 20-30% of my initial fps, and the stutters will get worse.

I started out with "quiet raids" preset, because anything else is just a constant meat-wave of enemies. I have further decreased the max bots count to 18. I have decreased the PMCWaveQuantity to 0.5 to further reduce the BARRAGE of enemies thrown at you. Random spawns is enabled TO EVEN IMPOSSIBLY FURTHER decrease the experience of soloing the defense of Helm's Deep against every single orc in Tarkov.

I am not using Performance Improvements since it not even ironically reduces performance and has compatibility issues with every other mod known to mankind.

I AM using Realism (duh) with Spawn Tweaks, Boss Spawn Tweaks, OpenZones Fix and Increased Bot Cap disabled.

If I remove MOAR and instead use the current test build for SWAG I have zero performance issues. Zero stuttering. Performance doesn't degrade as bad over the course of a long raid. No modern Russian infantry tactics of non-stop throwing every single breathing organism in Tarkov at the player, without remorse.

Rant over. How the fuck do I improve performance and remove the stuttering? The answer CANNOT be to disable every feature of the mod.

I noticed when using the more scavs preset, I see boss guards sometimes roaming on the map and raiders, is there a way to turn this off?

Я устал, без этого мода на Резерве одни дикие, с этим модом только босы с ЧВК-диких нет да что такое то!!!

my sain menu isnt opening with f6. any ideas why?

Having a minor issue; the PMC waves seem to all pick the same area I spawned in to spawn no matter if I am PMC or Scav. I've tested with both Dynamic Maps and Raid Review to see the behavior, and it does not seem to matter what map.

I run MOAR on default settings, and do not use Realism.

Quick question, how do I stop the horde of raiders on labs? I tried setting the pmcBot setting in bossconfig to 0 and I still get swarmed. Thanks in advance!

I have an issue that some PMC's are spawning behind the Parking/Warehouse door in Labs.

Didn't add any custom spawns, using Livelike for the preset.

I can confirm that this has a soft incompatibility with Realism. Had pretty much zero PMC spawns (or boss spawns, now that I think of it) with version 2.6.7, had pretty much zero spawns at all with 3.0.1.

I had to go into the out-of-game Realism configuration GUI and untick "boss spawn tweaks" and "OpenZones fix" ("spawn tweaks" was already off, but one should make sure it's off because that would probably break it too). I turned both of them off at the same time so, to be fair, I don't know for sure which one was the culprit and I don't really care, all I know and care about is that it fixed it.

After doing that, I went to test and Woods had turned from a horror game, where everything is dead silent and you keep jumping at shadows and expecting something to be around the next bend (although there never is), back into the ironically calming warzone we're all used to.

I also got a Rogue in the (metaphorical) killfeed on Woods, which means that spawn variety is working as intended too.

Is there a way to see what preset the game is, incase I miss it on load up?

Every map feels like an absolute warzone with this, like 40 bots in 10 minutes, whats up with that ?

Hi, when I enable MOAR no AI spawns. what am I doing wrong? thanks.

Legend Thank you

So glad to see that FIKA spawn thing fixed, my friends kept making fun of me when I'd spawn on the opposite side of the map from them

How should I use this with Realism's progressive boss rates? Should I just set all boss rates to 0 in bossConfig.json and load before Realism?

Looking through the code, it seems removing the boss entries ie. "bossKnight": 30 from each map in bossConfig should do it?

Based on buildBossWaves.ts:190

const mapBossConfig: Record<string, number> = cloneDeep(
        bossConfig[mapName] || {}
      );

It simply checks if any entries exists for the given mapName inside bossConfig.json and if not it sets the record to {} or essentially empty, correct?

My preset keeps resetting itself to Random every server restart. Client restart retains settings.

I've checked config,json, and it's not updating. It also doesn't have a setting for a starting preset. Is that somewhere else?

I don't believe write permissions are an issue.

Edit: BepInEx\config\MOAR.settings.cfg updates settings when I change them in F12. It looks like the settings update when I make changes, but it resets itself back to default every time the server starts. I've tried setting it to Read Only, but then those settings go missing in F12.

Is it possible that the mod keeps doing some kind of first time setup every boot?

Awesome mod, my guy. Question: any way to change the text that appears when you spawn with a selected preset? For example: 'Live-Like' changed to something like 'Normal' or something?

Cheers!

One feature I *really* miss with SWAG+Donuts is being able to disable bot spawning at X amount of time in the config for both scavs and PMCs. Is it possible to implement in this mod as well?

Is it possible in this mod to alter the max bots per map?

Like 30 on woods is ok - on factory its definitly not

[MOAR] Starting pmcs turned on, turning off cascade system and smoothing.

Do i understand this correctly, that turning on starting pmc´s does disable one of the core features of the mod... smoothing?

OK this is an odd one. Since this version of MOAR, scavs won't aggro me, they just chill past me. They voiceline near me then just trot along, no worry in the world.

I thought it was Please Just Fight, removed it, tested it, same behavior. I then removed MOAR (and put PJF back) then they were back to normal. Reinstalled MOAR and no aggro again

Is anyone else experiencing this?

EDIT: Disregard, it's not MOAR. Or PJF. I have NFI what it is!

1 issue I've noticed with the Moar mod. When you start up a raid in the menu screen and choose to unclick the Bosses box for that raid, you always have empty raids,no bots at all. ( TESTED THOROUGHLY )

So basically if you want a raid without a boss in it and untick that box on raid setup,you'll get a dead and empty raid. Only option is boss or nothing now. Does not bode well when I want a boss less raid now.

*without the moar mod the unticked boss box works fine.

Im I missing something on this issue?

I noticed, after updating to 3.0.0, Shturman and his followers leave the sawmill and sprint to the power lines to the NW. This started happening after updating MOAR. I have several RAID Reviews showing it. Let me know if you want me to post them. I love the mod updates, great job!

Bro, I'm using your mod with RM and here's the problem.
I set up all the raid parameters, go to the raid - everything is fine. Bots and PMCs spawn normally, but as soon as I leave the raid and go to a new one, I have a completely empty raid. There are no scavs or PMCs. What could be the problem?

Does this mod allow you to spawn Zombies in your raids? Im new to Spt and havent played Tarkov for awhile, I missed that event.

Is it possible to limit Raider spawns in Labs and Reserve? More often than not in Labs at some point I literally get unlimited waves of Raiders spawning very fast, like 6 every minute (!) and it never stops, they all know where I am and it's a real slog. I tried using the quiet raids preset but that only changes PMCs and regular Scavs as it would seem. I am using Realism but I have the spawn settings off.